- As I am sure you know, in Aviation we never stop learning, whether you have 5 hours or 20000 hours. Does it mean because we are then still learning the job (on top of enjoying it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ), we shouldn't get paid for it ?. .- From the last part of your reply, I see very well what is the value to them or should I say, I see the Value to them in a short sighted way.... .In doing so they are driving the Profession down, with the salaries with it and when years later, after their airline had gone broke (They always do <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> ), I am not sure they will be so happy that some guy accept to pay to work, when they are now in the same situation as the more experienced pilots they undercut years earlier.. .But hey that's just great because we are only making ourselves cheaper and cheaper without anyone's help.