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Old 22nd Jun 2020, 06:41
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Judd
 
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My lament too, is that most airline pilots these days don't get intensive instruction or screening for handling techniques, and there are some truly abysmal examples out there. This video doesn't surprise me at all - in fact I'm surprised it doesn't happen more often!
Never a truer word. Normal simulator sessions per handling pilot is two hours per session. Two pilots means four hours including break for changeover/coffee. Landing any aircraft consistently safely at its maximum cross-wind component requires considerable handling skill. A pilot doesn't achieve that sort of skill with just one or two a couple of practice landings in the simulator.

There are too many instances of box ticking after two crosswind landings and then moving on to something else. For example, at the beginning of the simulator session ask the simulator instructor to hop in the seat and first demonstrate a max crosswind landing. A picture is worth a thousand words. Chances are he will ignore your request with a weak excuse that he suddenly has a sore toe or something. Not many simulator instructors are game enough to chance their arm by demonstrating.

Some may argue the simulator is nothing like the real aircraft in crosswind landings and therefore simulator practice on crosswind landings is a waste of time and could even be negative training whatever that may be. In that case, either the full flight simulator lacks fidelity which may be a maintenance problem, or someone doesn't know what he is talking about. Lack of knowledge by simulator technicians is a common problem and this can impact upon the fidelity of simulators.

A new pilot to type needs lots of handling practice. This includes crosswind takeoffs and landing in strong crosswinds. This is not a fun exercise thrown in only if time permits. One cost efficient method is to place the simulator at five miles final with the crosswind already set.at maximum.and all landing checks complete. Forget standard calls since a squawking nervous copilot unnecessarily rattling out "Speed" "Speed" "Track Track Track" is more of a hindrance to a new pilot than a help. Remember it is a training exercise not a test and the instructor needs to use common sense rather than play at back seat driving. Silence is golden in these situations. Remember though, the silence no talking policy is purely for the sake of the training exercise in the simulator and not necessarily the norm in real life. .

An average new to type pilot will need at least ten practice maximum component crosswind landings from five miles before he is confident enough to get the hang of things. It is the flare and touch down technique the student needs to get a handle on. Again, for the purpose of the exercise, there is no pressing need for the full roll-out to aircraft stopped. That comes later once the student is both competent and confident he can do a reasonably good job of the landing itself.

Once the nose-wheel is on the ground and the pilot has things under immediate control, there is nothing wrong with the simulator instructor freezing or pausing the simulator to discuss pertinent points of handling. Only then should the instructor re-position the simulator to five mile final once more and repeat the exercise.

If time is critical, repositioning for a one mile final may be necessary. Don't forget to change the crosswind to the other side once the student is reasonably competent. Once the student is confident with day max crosswind landings, then night crosswind landings should also be practiced.

Depending on the students progress, the simulator instructor may need to spend 40 minutes or more on this exercise before the student is confident he can hack it consistently well. But it is important that the PM is briefed to keep his mouth shut throughout this training and leave the simulator instructor to add his bit where needed.

Last edited by Judd; 22nd Jun 2020 at 07:05.
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