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Old 27th Apr 2020, 20:02
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heights good
 
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Originally Posted by Chugalug2
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You could be just one of 290 others, it could be at night, the cabin full of smoke with flames burning their way into the cabin and up to half the exits thus unavailable. But you'll be good, right? At the cost presumably of the other pax in your way, coming in the opposite direction, packing out the remaining exits and slides (are they deployed properly anyway, and who deployed them anyway?). The CC of course would be useless and have to be rescued by those like you who are orders of magnitude more qualified. Pity about the majority who died because of the lack of direction by qualified aircrew getting the aircraft fully evacuated, but at least you are good!

I've no idea what your day job is, but I repeat you would not be welcome on my aircraft and, yes, my word would be final!

I'm suggesting that the genesis of a fully constituted air force crew being jointly manned by aircrew was war. Destroy that notion and you open up a can of worms. With pax attitudes like yours a major in-flight emergency could quickly become needlessly un-survivable. That is where the difference between civil and military pax a/c cuts in. Civvie pax may well be orders of magnitude more qualified than the CC but will usually do as instructed in an emergency. With military pax you now have crew and pax from the same Service or possibly other Services. Either way they will hold ranks that may be less than, equal to, or exceed those of the CC managing an emergency. Previous discussions here suggested that problems would emanate from 'squaddies'. I am beginning to think that the real problems might come from opinionated aircrew such as your self :-

'Non-Traditional' Aircrew

especially as comments similar to your own were posted there.

As to the selection standards required, the courses imposed, ranks awarded; all that is up to the operator, ie the RAF. As to the regulator, the MAA, every word is gospel, or bloody well should be!
You have a great point.

I might point this out to Airbus,

They could perhaps have slides that automatically deploy when the doors open and the cabin crew can "disarm and cross-check" before opening inadvertently....

Oh, oh, oh I have a great idea, what about putting some "lighting on the floor that will lead you to an exit" and when you get to an exit it is another colour, genius or what?!

"In the unlikely event of landing on water" we could have life jackets to hand, say under passenger seats and as an added bonus they "have a light and a whistle for attracting attention!"

Hhhhmmmm how do we get around the fire over the wing dilemma.....? I got it, install transparent panels that you can look through before opening the door.

thats a lot to think of, pax should probably be briefed on this before every flight as it is important stuff. Why dont we have a video that could be shown before every flight! Man, I am a genius.

I might pitch this on Dragons Den...

As an aside, your argument has now shifted from CC being aircrew to justifying CC which do provide an essential role.

Enjoy wallowing in your inferiority complex. Your viewpoint is nonsensical.

Have an amazing day....

Just in case you want to apply for aircrew https://www.raf.mod.uk/recruitment/apply

Last edited by heights good; 27th Apr 2020 at 20:26.
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