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A little birdie
This statement as it stands alone is simply not true.
The Qantas offer on the table and the AIPA offer would see any current A330 pilot take a pay rise that would exceed any increase in stick hours. $50K more for 40 hours extra stick in the year in the same number of days away is the rough number. That’s a LOT more than the hourly pay rate for those stick hours.
Is it as good as the black book numbers for an A330 rate? No. That would be $100K additional and three less days of flying per BP. But that’s not on offer and never will be.
Is what the company is offering ‘adequate’? It seems to be a similar deal to the 787. Despite the voices to the contrary I’ve not yet come across a 787 pilot who claims they’re under paid for what they do.
The 330 pilot may be taking a pay rise, but the 350 isn’t replacing the 330 is it? It’s ultimately replacing the 380!
So compared to the type it will ultimately be replacing, it’s 20-30K down (depending on rank) with 2 days extra work and 9 stick hrs extra a bid period, not to mention the fact it’s operating MVF under flight and duty rule set that is far less restrictive than we operate under presently.
And if you want to compare apples with apples, let’s compare it to the 787 then.
Company figures suggest, and I assume that’s where you got your figures from, it’s anywhere from 5-13% (Year 4-Year1 rates) above the 787 on a divisor of 170 for the 350/330 and 155 for the 787.
Thats roughly 3 extra days and 4 more stick hours over and above the 787 a bid period. That works out to nearly 3 weeks at home more on the 787 than the 350/330 over the course of a year on those presumed divisors, and yes I understand those can fluctuate.
More days at work, and when you’re at work you’re working more hours, doing horrendously long TOD’s under an FRMS that the company will use as limits not guide lines, (granted, this will occur across all fleets now)
This needs to be taken into account when comparing it to any financial gain.
Do those gains compensate for what we are being asked to do on the shiny new jet under an a set of work rules the company are salivating over the prospect of implementing? Not to mention the draconian actions the company are using to get this over the line!