Originally Posted by
normanton
Secure the flying. Go after improvements once the planes are here.
I’m sorry normanton but that is just grossly misplaced optimism.
You will NEVER make up the conditions you trade away now.
Look at the SH EA. There are a million issues we want to fix with it but we have so little to trade away that it is near impossible to improve it. SH makes more money than every part of Qantas and has done for years and years but we hit a brick wall every time we try to improve the EA.
Look at Jetstar, they have the jets and the jobs but look how hard JQ are fighting the pilots attempts to “Go after improvements once the planes are [t]here”.
You are clearly spooked by the company’s threats. So how do you think things would play out at the following EA negotiations when they say;
“Ok, we ordered 12 A350’s under the Sunrise business case. Now we want 30 more to replace the A330’s and you need to give up X, Y and Z to make the business case or we will get external pilots to fly them.”
Your fear of their threat then will mean you have to call their bluff or give up MORE conditions. If you’re not prepared to call them out then you have ZERO chance to “Go after improvements once the planes are here”. In fact you will get ripped off again because you fell for it last time and they will pull this stunt for every subsequent EA.
Why wouldn’t they?
And giving in to Qantas doesn’t protect you from anything. SH and JQ both have bare bones contracts (relative to LH) yet they are giving A320’s to Network, JetConnect fly VH 737’s and they are threatening to sell JQ 787’s. This is how the Qantas group thanks you for signing a ****ty EA!