Originally Posted by
golfyankeesierra
Except that you need them for f/d guidance. And automatic go around as well (which btw in some situations like IMC is far more desirable then a manual one. There have been many accidents due to somatogravic illusions and A/P doesn’t suffer from that).
But as far as thrust goes, I agree that it is wrong that Boeing has long ago changed SOPS during g/a to hit the button first and then ensure thrust is set, without hanging on to the well established habit of shoving the thrust levers forward.
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The capt was flying the HUD. This requires the toga to be actuated, just as the FD does. What both then show is the GA pitch. If you are in a wind shear close to ground recovery, however the drill is to get every last bit of energy out of the aircraft to get clear of the deck.
That requires pitch above - and IAS below GA values - until clear of ground. And by the way in the latter case, our company required AP / ATS off, as first actions (followed by much pitch up and thrust increase to the stops) so the toga only affected the flight guidance items - which anyway don’t display what you are temporarily trying to fly.
In a fatigued situation the choice might not be apparent.