Originally Posted by
ShyTorque
I have no reason to state anything other than the way it was and btw, the incident referred to didn't occur during "standard hover engines off" training; it was during OEI training. When the C+ first came into service, the cockpit layout and engine control systems were totally different from previous variants (I also flew the A+ and the C and latterly the B). There is now (thankfully) no need to carry out OEI training for the C+ and C++ in the actual aircraft because there are certified simulators which are sufficiently representative. From personal experience, the published short field takeoff technique for the C+ was tricky even in ideal circumstances and uncomfortable for the passengers. In nil wind, or "light and variable" wind conditions it was marginal. I personally had an "interesting" experience during OEI training on the C+, thankfully without bending anything. Others weren't quite so lucky.
I was picking up on references from earlier posts. Thanks for the more complete picture Shy.
One thing the couple of S76 variants I have flown seem to have in common was a precipitous energy profile.