Originally Posted by
CamelSquadron
Your comments are based on a false premise that I am a management troll.
Nothing false about it, your position and intentions have been known since the beginning, ably called out some time ago by Sunfish;
Jetstar EBA 2019
Feel free for a refresher.
Originally Posted by
CamelSquadron
Remove that premise and a lot of of the above is just emotional rambling and finger pointing.
No, they are a direct rebuttal of the garbage you've been shoveling from the beginning. Over and over you have been challenged on specific points, and the false assertions you've made, and time and time again you have simply ignored them. This is yet another example of your inability to address the issues.
Originally Posted by
CamelSquadron
Removing all the rambling stuff rebuttal of my arguments, you have covered the arguments of each side. Both sides think their argument is the defining one. You cant just ignore the arguments (Irony is dead Ladies and Gentlemen) of the other side. You need to understand it and work out if and how you can overcome it.
Amusing, and demonstrates how completely you have failed to grasp the companies position. There is no 'overcoming' it through negotiation. There is 3%, or nothing. That is it. Their latest email confirms this, declaring that no meeting with AFAP will even be entertained unless they accept 3% and do not even bring up any proposals such as MDC which the company has simply dismissed. This isn't negotiation.
Originally Posted by
CamelSquadron
After considering the situation of the other side, are you asking for something that cannot be given?
Not at all. As I said and you of course chose to ignore, you don't get to pick and choose which precedents to suit.
And that question can just as ably be turned around and directed at the company. They are asking the hardest working, most productive and highest responsibility holding narrowbody pilots in the country to continue and indeed increase their productivity, whilst not just remaining the lowest paid pilots out of the entire category, but increasingly so over time, substantially. If only O'Leary had been smart enough to simply inform his UK pilots that Ryanair had a wage policy! Because thats all it takes right?
Originally Posted by
CamelSquadron
Its hard to remove the emotion when its your livelihood thats involved.
More like its difficult to negotiate in good faith when your bonus is involved. No doubt substantial KPI rewards are on offer to certain managers and others like LL if they can keep this to within 3%. Its disgusting.