Originally Posted by
CamelSquadron
PIA is such a destructive tool. Costs the employer money. Costs the employees jobs. Disrupts the very customers that keep the company alive and effectively pay the employees wages. Its a lose - lose situation.
The real question is, how bad are the negotiators that they have allowed the situation to deteriorate to this level? It really is a damming for the Union negotiators. A good negotiator would have found the middle ground without the need for PIA. How bad are the negotiators that they have set the expectations of a deal on their side at a level that cannot be achieved?
Terrible terrible negotiation skills.
No one is going to win here.
Dont let commonsense get in the way of your emotional outbursts.....lol
Wow, management trolling at it's worst.
Negotiations are a two way street, you give a little, I give a little. Every EA negotiations with the QF Group is now "cost neutral"..in other words, as we have seen with QF SH and Jetstar, is that the Company seeks a further eroding of T&C's, seeking (or gouging) productivity increase whilst giving the respective pilots...nothing.
After seeing the prolific waste of Capital Expenditure in Red Q, Jetstar Asia (how much profit? What about ROIC?), Jetstar Pacific, Jetstar Japan, Jetstar Hong Kong (northwards of $400 million, wasn't it?), the grounding of mainline ($250 million plus) we have had enough. Those on the line face the consequences of you cost cutting of front line staff (how is the OTP going? Not well, is it?) whilst management numbers..or should I say, the line for coffee..increases to infinity...
You must think we are stupid to believe in the propaganda, non-core promises and out right lies (300 plus for a Captain) that is generated daily from Coward St. It may work to those on the Koolaid at the Campus, but those in the real world see it for what it is...
Please, keep you trolling off here
....and to the men and women at JQ, best of luck...