I don’t share the belief that AIPA and AFAP are best of friends and just looking out for each other. I am not a member of either but was flying with an AIPA member recently who spent most of the flight telling me how he hoped that AFAP would get taken to the cleaners for their ‘rediculous’ demands. He is shortly to join Qantas mainline and said that his mates in Qantas were openly seeing this as an opportunity to get some 787 flying back to Mainline and AIPA was keen on offering to pick up the Jetstar 787 flying when they priced themselves out of the low cost market. Now I am not saying this kind of attitude is prevelent in the majority but the whole ‘we are all friends and supportive’ is a bit of a stretch. I pointed out to this young guy that this sort of attitude is exactly the kind of bull**** the managers want to cultivate and the fractured pilot group is detrimental to everyone, it was a quiet flight home.