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Old 16th Nov 2019, 13:46
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
But even countries that can be described as Nation States have "Uprisings" ORAC - most famously the USA but just about every country has had to resort to armed reaction to keep the state intact at one time or another. Spain fought a Civil War in living memory and is still not settled but that's been a Nation State for over 500 years.
A rose by any other name. Unions try to assume the form of being a nation ASAP. In hardening their identity they simultaneously reduce the identity of their component states. Even if they don't formally declare themselves as Unions, if their "nation" is composed of previously separate cultures with their own language and traditions then they are in effect a Union. Go ask the Basques and Catalonians.

Yes, nations can have civil wars of course, but Unions are more likely to because of the sharp divisions within the population. Again these tensions are more likely to erupt in the early years but they are there forever. A mature Union should recognise that and have some form of democratic process to provide for secession if the majority so wish.
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