Why are you attacking me? I'm not an abstract person to hate. I'm another person with viewpoint, and I acknowledge the problem is nuanced. And I'm speaking from experience as a VSL student. Have you ever been through the system? I don't think it's entirely the fault of the students. I'm sure SOAR practices some nefarious methods e.g. like you said, of making students repeat lessons they successfully completed. I just think the culture of "CASA bad, SOAR bad, screw Foxbats" is becoming a little oversubscribed and turning into a hive-mind.