And therein lies the problem.
QF pilots are saying we want more data if we are going to be subject to 22 hour TOD, we want scientific data. The Company says here is 787 pay minus 10%, we don't want pay night credits for THREE pilot ops (Newsflash people:the 787 doesn't get night credits for 4 crew ops), our Scientific Research is 3 flights, if you don't sign the agreement by the New Year then we will invest in Frequent Flyers etc. Why the rush from the Company? They knew the LH EBA was expiring end of June, Project Sunrise has been going in one form or another for 18 months, yet suddenly...
It smells just like Red Q or Jetstar HK, publicity now, details (Regulatory Approval?) later.
Have a good read on how Singapore Airlines approached SIN- New York. A measured approach, that included scientists going to the homes of both flight attendants and pilots the day before the pattern.
As for QF LG pilots not changing, what do you think the last EBA was about? It was the end of Legacy Terms, a 30% productivity gain for the company.
The SH EBA expired August last year. 18 months of negotiating (if you can call it that) and we are no nearer a sign-off on that. Engineers was about the same time.
Why the rush for LH?