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Old 28th Sep 2019, 19:35
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rodan
 
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Originally Posted by FlightDetent
I would expect definitely
- not keeping or lying about speed adherence,
Yes. When we ask “Report your speed?” with a quizzical tone, we already know they’re going too fast, we’re just letting them know we know. Caveat - If the explanation is a hefty tailwind, it’s very helpful to be told.

- fake WX avoidance call for shortcuts,
Yes. The amount of weather avoidance requests (from particular airlines) that coincidentally go direct to 10nm final...

- wishful CTOT (+10) keeping
Yup. “But we can be airborne in 10 minutes” - maybe, if there were no other aircraft landing or departing - that’s what the -5+10 is for. Please, manage your FPL, and delay early for the best outcome. That applies to EOBT +\-15 as well. Appreciate that some ATC colleagues don’t help this issue by fudging CTOTs, it makes those of us who play the game seem inflexible.

My personal bugbear:
Any heading instruction for an arrival that doesn’t reduce track mileage getting “ABC123, can we self-position?” in reply. (Again - particular airlines).

Last edited by rodan; 28th Sep 2019 at 20:03.
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