Originally Posted by
Reverserbucket
These “no hopers” hopefully removed at an early stage of training can depend entirely on the market in my experience as I recall a couple of students who reached a spectacular 40-50 hours, numerous review boards etc. prior to solo, who were allowed to continue despite their apparent ineptitude. One certainly made it to RYR in the end. Another I remember chopped just short of about 35 hours and no solo on the horizon at a fair weather base but was actually allowed to continue training back at home by the same school. Got through the CPL IIRC but never made it to the IR.
I find it interesting whenever these discussions appear that folk are prepared to pay top dollar for integrated training on the basis that you might get an interview (again, when the market is buoyant...plenty didn't during the last downturn but according to the marketing, that's the best time to train, right?), yet accept that the instructors are barely out of training themselves. Naturally, you don't know this pre-training, and of course it's been this way for a long time, but it says a lot about the industry in terms of quality and experience vs access.
A reminisce to days when CAP509 was the training manual. JAR was introduced on 1 July 1999.
BAe flying college at Prestwick set a minimum experience for Flying Instructors at one thousand instructional hours in the late 1980s. 90% were ex RAF A2 instructors. The course was 200 hours flying + simulator. A QUALITY COURSE.
Students were allowed up to 15 hours to go solo. Anything more than this and Standards would get involved. Occasionally a chop ride would occur. The Cathay students were allowed up to 20 hours, as they probably hadn’t even driven a car in HK.
Six Progress Tests, five on the PA28/AS202 and the F170A on the PA34. Fail the same PT twice, and your days might well be numbered.
And being INTEGRATED, the bulk of the 16 month course was day ON, day OFF flying alternating with Ground school.
No question of allowing “no hopers” to continue. Unfair on them to be allowed to continue with absolutely no prospect of success.