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Old 5th Sep 2019, 11:29
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Originally Posted by dragon man


Maybe just maybe if they had gotten twin engine aircraft earlier like 2005 and some nice 777-300 ER aircraft then those 4 services might have been profitable. The one thru HongKong was always a problem as they had a restriction of 50% on HongKong originating traffic however when they pulled out other carriers increased frequency. I would suggest that London was a problem purely and simply because management had failed to purchase the correct aircraft. As pointed out above the game changer which is stillcoming in dribs and drabs to Qantas is a second generation game changer better managed airlines have ordered and are getting delivered A350s and shortly the new 777 which Tim Clark at Emirates raves about and calls an absolute peach. https://simpleflying.com/emirates-bo...rs-completion/
The fact is Qantas is sitting on the back of the power curve. Lastly Please read this as it applies IMO perfect ly to Qantas.
https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea....a380-problems/
The planning guru in Qantas told Joyce they were a dog with fleas and not to bother doing the upgrade. Guess what happened to him? Sacked.
Sure, if you go back far enough, to the 2000 decision on the A380, that might have worked. Although, the transcript that CurtainTwitcher quoted shows that the A380 has its benefits for QF too.

However, Rated was expressly criticising Joyce's handling of the Europe routes, so the better question might have been what would he have done differently in Joyce's shoes? T

A350, as you've suggested, is a red herring in that discussion - if what you're arguing is that QF should scrap the A380 on LHR and replace it with the A350, then that's basically the PER/Sunrise strategy, just with the marginally smaller 787 on PER. The 777X might be a peach when it arrives, but it's not here yet, and QF are actively considering being one of the first airlines to get it.

We've discussed the Air France comparison before. I disagree that Air France's situation with the A380 is perfectly comparable to QF's. But YMMV.
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