Crab ... you have changed your tune . You are now effectively agreeing with me ! I don’t care which way the blades are going as it makes no difference.... you go light on the skids and it will tell you which pedal is needed . Simples . We don’t need to over complicate it . People should feel equally happy going from one type to another without having to think about putting in a certain pedal . I quite accept that some people , like you , will consciously think about which is power pedal etc but at the end of the day you put in what is required ... end of !! Anyway this is a bit a thread drift from what looked like a ham fisted lift off and no amount of pedal thinking was going to help him !