Originally Posted by
sea plane
..Anyone that says these pilots were too experienced to have that happen... you need to reassess yourself and realize it can happen to any pilot regardless of time and experience..
Too right. I had an IFR crew in the simulator once, we were practicing low visibility runway departures at night (because the contract they were assigned to had a night standby requirement). Experienced ATP Captain flying. In IMC within a few seconds of initial climb-out. Went inverted and flew it into the runway, co-pilot said and did nothing. And if you think that's scary, we repeated the exercise with exactly the same result, co-pilot said and did nothing a second time. And if you think that's scary, guess what happened at the third attempt. That was in ATT uncoupled mode. And if you think push button coupled mode might be more successful, you need to rethink that as well. Because it 'aint.