Originally Posted by
machtuk
I love the confusion here, CASA must shake their heads ! Why do they have ICUS in a log book anyway? (You are in CMD making all the decisions but are under supervision, doesn't get simper than that!)For this very reason! No biggy just log ICUS, you should be proud of every minute you log!:-)
Machtuk,
Because, unlike the rest of the (broadly) comparable word, Australia and Australian pilots have always had a very strange bee in their collective bonnets about "pilot in command", and seem to look for every opportunity to confuse "pilot in command" and "pilot in command under supervision".
The very simple fact that "pilot in command under supervision" IS NOT "pilot in command" is, apparently, (along with ICAO Annex II and many other countries equivalents AICUS/Command practice/P1-U/S etc) a concept that raises great anguish in Australia.
Starting with ICAO Annex II, how you log it and how it counts towards "command" and "total aeronautical experience" should be straight forward, and even was, in Australia, until the 1960s, when we started fiddling around with a range of non-ICAO pilot licenses --- all with the aim of making it bureaucratically difficult for pilots to quit Australian airline jobs and get much higher paid jobs, with vastly better promotion prospects, outside Australia.
This was the era of "Second Class ATPL endorsed to First Class Standard" and similar abominations ---- with the necessary "difference" notified to ICAO re. any AU aircraft engaged in international aviation.
The latest Part 61 nonsense is just the current chapter in a long and very un-meritorious sage, the like of which says a lot about Australia as an aviation Galapagos.
Once again (and just one of some many) we have a long thread on something that just would not happen anywhere else.
Tootle pip!!