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Old 24th Jun 2019, 12:49
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racedo
 
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Originally Posted by homonculus
Thanks Racedo and flying Wild

You both refer to an attempted breach of the cockpit and I suspect nobody would argue with this were there repeated attempts to break down the door and or loss of communication with the cc. However one young lady who may have been inebriated or have mental health issues and who was restrained by passengers really doesnt constitute an attempted breach. The analogy is the drunk woman in Guildford high street who, faced with a handful of police states she is going to kill the lot of them. Their response is quite different than if a man with a gun who isnt drunk makes the same threat.

I fully appreciate that there is a need to 'play safe' but the door isnt going to give in with a couple of thumps even if the person on the other side is a six foot male. There was presumably contact with the cc at the back. Have we really got to the stage where each and every passenger disruption leads to this? What really made this different from every other Stansted flight with unruly drunks?
Lets not do anything with one young lady, sends message, so next time its one young lady but she a plant so when they drag her down the back there are 4 others who go after the door and yup it will eventually be broken through.

P.s. being 6ft and 100kgs doesn't mean you could break the door down, 5ft nothing tiny lady in high street took 6 police to subdue her and she knew how to fight, smashed door and window of cop car plus dosed on crack cocaine meant even a taser was SFA use, have a read of some of the US cop reports of subduing someone on PCP in the 90's.

Underestimate someone is easiest way to lose control.

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