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Old 4th May 2019, 05:39
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Originally Posted by wonkazoo
dumbest freaking effing hallelujah **** DIE rant
Temper your emotion. The startle response has been studied and documented for decades, and the results are used as a part of the design and certification of aircraft around the world. Instead of resorting to profanity, which may feel powerful to you but adds no value, I suggest that you read some of the original research and publications of Dr. Michael Gillen, PhD. Dr. Gillen also happens to be an ATP and is/was a 737 line check airman at United Airlines. His research indicates that impairment can last for up to 30 seconds following a strong startle event. He also published a great paper a few years ago (based on a study involving 40 different crews) comparing the effect of training recency on response to startle effect. This paper was used by the FAA as part of defining the new UPRT training requirements, which the FAA now requires as a result of the unacceptable pilot performance demonstrated on AF447. He found that crews who did not have recency in UPRT training consistently failed to meet ATP minimum standards, while crews who did have recent training, met the ATP standards.

The Ethiopian crew did not perform to standards. If, instead of flying a revenue flight on a 737MAX, they happened to be in a simulation session on an 737NG, and they were given stick shaker and airspeed disagree at rotation, how do you think the check airman would have rated the subsequent performance? Would he have said "Gee, too bad that stick shaker was annoying you. I'll forgive your failure to execute any of the required checklist items. You're cleared for another 6 months."

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