Ethiopian airliner down in Africa

[Water pilot]

Originally Posted by 737 Driver

You can find a fairly comprehensive review at the following link which includes some reasonable speculation as to why the pilots did not trim sufficiently during the final moments:

https://www.satcom.guru/2019/04/what...-on-et302.html​​​​​​

Thanks for the link, but note that they shrug their shoulders as well:

In any case, it is not clear what prevented the crew from continuing to trim airplane nose up to reduce column forces.

This is something that needs to be figured out, and I hope that Boeing's internal practice is different than their public stance that three independent aircrews (the first crew did not respond properly, either) were not skilled enough to fly their plane. They need to test this scenario to failure in the sim, find the worst line pilots imaginable, the ones quite close to being terminated but still qualified, and put them through this scenario and see what they do. If they can't replicate the scenario, something else is wrong.

Boeing's conclusion that pilots are unqualified to fly the MAX -- and that is their conclusion, and the conclusion of many here -- is at odds with their stance that a 15 minute IPAD session will fix everything. Boeing markets the plane as being flyable by pilots that meet industry standards and either the plane is not flyable by pilots who meet those standards (you can't argue with two crashes in six months) or there is something wrong with the plane. The latter is far easier to fix.