Originally Posted by
Bend alot
You do understand MCAS is a requirement for flight within certification requirements?
With MCAS disabled (due now to any of a number of reasons) - how is flight within certification requirement limits meet?
Nothing at all to do with any trim event (Important you understand that) but what is flight like outside the certifiable limits?
I will agree there is NO REQUIREMENT for a trim run away - extra training, it is pointless
I do believe that training is required if the aircraft has probable possibility to be flown outside certification limits, but within the approved flight envelope of the aircraft.
Training required is not known by most of us, but only those that have flow MCAS during it's testing. It is reasonable to believe that the difference with MCAS and without MCAS is pretty large, as design used 0.6 degrees as the input but in flight tests 2.5 was required to get the correct feel.
MCAS is NOT required for certification. It is the feedback that is required.
Yet
AGAIN, I ask you (
perhaps pointlessly, and for the 3rd effing time) since you seem to be unsatisfied with the training program, I say again, how much training do you suggest is appropriate to reinforce/retrain that a professional pilot needs to use normal trim to re-trim to an appropriate speed and then use the pitch trim disconnect switches in the event of an MCAS or runaway trim event? What amount of training is appropriate for any other event?
I am actually asking for a quantitative number, not rhetoric, as your last answers suggest.