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Old 25th Mar 2019, 16:46
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yanrair
 
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Originally Posted by groundbum
Two crashes bad. Third crash - jail time for all involved. And I would mean top to bottom at Boeing and the FAA.

So lemme see. Boeing rushed some software in in a rush, in a couple of years due to the NEO threat. Now they've rushed some more software in, in a few months, and this is somehow better? Have they even started to write test plans for all the interactions with other systems? Started to look at the AD converters? Perhaps the Boeing board would like to spend next week strapped in a MAX cabin doing high speed touch and go's in Africa with the greenest crew from Ethiopian Airlines/Lionair, people with 50 hours each on type and a messed up sleep pattern on a plane fixed by the greenest mechanics going with airline bosses yelling to keep the schedule going regardless? Is the USAF/USN letting this new software go onto their 737 derivatives?

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Where are you going with this Groundbum!! If you are suggesting that Boeing or Airbus have to make planes that can be flown "doing high speed touch and go's in Africa with the greenest crew from XXX Airlines/AN other Airlines, people with 50 hours each on type and a messed up sleep pattern on a plane fixed by the greenest mechanics going with airline bosses yelling to keep the schedule going- regardless?", then who are you blaming? Clearly the airlines are responsible in this case and I would not want to fly with an airline like that. There are many like this and they are listed here and I would not fly with them.
https://ec.europa.eu/transport/modes...-ban/search_en
However I think you have to expect the manufacturer to make planes intended to be flown by competent pilots who can deal with most anything that comes along, as it does daily, and sometimes extraordinary events ( BA 747 quadruple engine failure; Hudson; 767 Gimli Airfield; BA 777 Heathrow; hundreds of others that are out there). And we expect National Authorities to regulate their airlines properly and the airlines to manage them properly so that the scenario you describe should not occur. It is why we should have highly trained pilots and two of them.
I feel that there is a lot of discomfort among some on this forum to accept that pilots need to know what they are doing and to stay ahead of the plane. A plane is not a play station, much as some would like it to be, and I for one believe that to try and make it into one is a bad move.
A superior pilot is one who uses his superior judgement to ensure he never has to exercise his superior skill!! I am not sure that should be changed.

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