Put another way, please describe a set of events where a computer system was able to dive the plane and there was nothing the pilots could do. When we have a coherent response to that we can move forward.
Is anyone saying that there was nothing the pilots could do?
I think there are two problems being exposed by this thread and others like it;
1/ Commercial pressure has influenced the design and certification process to the extent that a sub-standard system has been rushed into production.
2/ The accepted minimum standard of pilot training within the industry has been slowly and steadily eroded over the last few decades. ( a ppt file as a ‘differences course ‘ to move from the NG to the Max? Give me a break.)