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- Very observant, thank you - I have corrected the aircraft type.
- No, I didn't confuse the CAA; I merely queried the undefined (in ICAO and UK) term "upwind". And your comment is indeed taken as a ;-) !
- You are quite right that many other states have there own variations or additions such as joining the downwind leg at a defined angle if the circuit is active, the specification of a mid-point position on the downwind leg etc.
- However, as the OP is based in Lincolnshire, I assumed that he was talking UK procedures - and I made that clear. In the UK, use of the term upwind in this context is inappropriate because, as in ICAO, it is not defined and therefore can be misinterpreted.
- The UK CAA really needs to address this subject - including the issue of direct joins on either base leg or crosswind, and whether under ATC, AFIS, AGCS or no radio service. After two fatal collisions in the circuit in recent years, the responsibility was essentially left with the aerodrome operator or ANSP, thus creating the probability of even more local variations with resultant confusion.
Glider90 - couldn't agree more.
Cheers
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