Originally Posted by
knobbycobby
Justin,
Qantas applied to FWA to have 787 terms and conditions not determined. AIPA wanted them to Artibrate. As suggested by others it would of been better for pilots.
A330 LH or should I say Fair work Determined rates would of been the minimum
You have just agreed with my point. Aipa wanted the 787 terms and conditions arbitrated and FWC refused to do so - just as they will almost certainly refuse to do so for any future types - especially unordered ones. You can’t say the A330 terms “would of been the minimum” - how so? FWC flat out refused to decide the terms, therefore there is no “minimum”.
The idea that FWC will determine better than negotiated terms for the 777/350 is therefore grossly misleading and is directly opposed by the evidence and precedent.
There is no way that they would commit to 777/350 orders without a finalised EBA.
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