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Old 5th Dec 2018, 01:31
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Progress Wanchai
 
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Originally Posted by morningcoffee

Going off the starting pay at jetstar on the 320 after a newbie had survived GA, they could borrow $460k on a 30 year. That would get them a 1 br apt in Melbourne.
Almost.

Every man and his dog is getting off the AirNZ shortHAUL fleet, meanwhile CX pilots quit to sign up on the 320 in droves.

Still waiting to hear a good paying, reasonable days off flying job.


MC, a few posts ago you claimed that in Melbourne “under a million buys you sweet fu*k all”. This highlights your elitist arrogant management view of the world. I’m guessing you view “Melbourne” as south of the Yarra in the leafy Eastern suburbs or inner city along the bay. In fact average asking prices for Melbourne houses is $963,200 and units $555,800 (source. “The Australian” 4/12/18)

Within a daily commuting distance of Melbourne Airport are some lovely towns where for your $460k you can purchase a 3 bedroom house, lock up garage where you can keep your car to drive yourself to work, alongside it is your boat, motorbike, golf clubs and the kids bicycles which they use to ride themselves to their free school that required no interview, no debenture and no waiting list. Out the back is the pool and bbq in a landscaped setting with the veggie patch and fruit trees while out the front the Mrs has her roses.
Sure, your jetstar pilot may not get as many days off in a month (mind you, don’t forget he’s accumulating long service leave) as your average Cathay SO/FO, but what’s the point in days off when you’re staring at the 4 walls of your rented Tung Chung shoe box listening to construction noises breathing in Chinese pollution watching your Mrs and kids slowly going mad?

There’s other secondary factors to also consider rather than the standard “money, lifestyle and days off”. Working in a country with first world labor laws, on an enforceable detailed contract rather than amendable company policy, working for an airline that promotes a “Heath and Wellness Program” rather than enforces a “Sickness and Absent Management Program”, or an airline that has never sacked 49 of its pilots for no better reason than to show the remaining pilots that it can.

Here’s the thing MC. Neither you nor I or even Cathay management get to decide what a market competitive employment package looks like. The market decides.
So I’ll ask you for the third time. If the employment package that CX offer is market competitive, why are the pilots who are leaving for other airlines not being replaced in equal number by pilots leaving those airlines for CX?
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