Originally Posted by
dragon man
The RIN in this case is far more complex because of the year 4 money on the 787 , no overtime or night credits and a squirrel cage bidding system. If it had been like for like I would say the majority would have bid for the 787 not waited for the RIN.
Couple of points.
Leading up to the last 767 RIN we had Alan Joyce begging the government for money and Qantas made a record loss.
A TERMINAL decline according to Joyce.
The company and AIPA both showed the 787 flying mostly to Asia and not anywhere near as long as PER-LHR so as to make the loss of overtime and night credits look far less than is now the reality.
145 Stick hours was sold as an acceptable workload. That is now 175.
Pilots falsely believed Qantas would order 787 numbers in the order of 50. They were also told to believe that Qantas would go broke. The reality is that today the 787 is simply a 747 replacement type and Qantas is not going broke but is making consecutive billion dollar profits.
Qantas has now made multiple yearly record profits. At the same time Executives have taken HUNDREDS of millions in dollars in BONUSES with Alan taking close to 100 MILLION personally.
There is also A lot of retirements due and there is a well documented global Pilot SHORTAGE.
If the 747 replacement was closely remunerated then this would be an non issue. The 747 pilots would simply re-train onto the 787.
The new type is going to replace the A380 and fly mostly 21 hour flights. No operator does this and no Qantas pilot has flown this kind of extreme flying.
AIPA and the pilot body better make damn sure it’s a very good deal as that kind of flying will be a killer.
Maybe if your 20s or 30s you can be smug and say how easy it will be. But in your 50s and 60s ????????
Very soon pilots will have to work to 67 before retiring. Pilots better think long and hard about down the track In later years doing that kind of flying on a repetitive basis.
I would expect the company to cry wolf again and hope the pilots accept a crap deal out of fear.
The million dollar bonus question is how many times can they get away with it.
The SH EBA is curretly pathetic and the new LH agreement for the 380 replacement needs to be better than the 787 EA given what it will do.