Originally Posted by
zoigberg
On leaving th EU we automatically become a third country. That is a consequence of Article 50. Anything more than that needs to be negotiated,
I expect the EU would rather like us to remain part of EASA. However, for that to happen we would have to accept ruling of the ECJ, which at present is still one of Mrs May’s Red Lines.
When we leave the EU we become a "third country" but that is orthogonal to EASA membership, and EASA members are not considered as third countries in EASA terms - a Swiss AOC holder does not need an EASA TCO cert.
That the UK position is to seek EASA membership with indirect (or whatever you want to call it) ECJ jurisdiction a la Switzerland was reported in mainstream news last year ( e.g.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/88...es-Theresa-May ,
https://news.sky.com/story/govt-to-s...-line-11151049 ) and confirmed publically in a whitepaper back in July (may be earlier). You can call it blurring the red line, bending the red line, or crossing the red line, doesn't matter - it is the UK position and has been for many months.
There has been plenty of time to agree and conclude a deal for aviation to provide certainty for the industry, on both sides, but the politicians insist that the negotiations should be an all-or-nothing game of brinkmanship, while asking the impossible of the other side - and again, this is on both sides. It'll end with either a last minute fudge that no one likes, or a no-deal that the politicians have refused to allow the industry to prepare for by banning EASA from talking to the CAA.
