In terms of “least qualified” to fly for Air NZ, by that logic CX SO’s must be vastly superior candidates to a turboprop skipper with all that jet time. Get a grip!! Take the job off the pedestal for a moment and look who they can put straight in to a jet in Europe.
Well, no. Cathay S/Os aren’t type-rated for one thing, more importantly Cathay Captains and F/Os were applying and they represented a “vastly superior” candidate than the lot of you. Why would the company want to hire external turboprop candidates when the same product exists in-country? Nice job again conflating the company’s requirement for external candidates to have jet time with the evil, ego driven “jet” pilots putting their job on a “pedestal”.
”They” put cadets into jets in Europe because there is NO GA! Singapore put their cadets into Learjets, and neither they, nor Cathay have subsidiary operations - stop comparing apples with durians. We have the Links, that is our cadetship! If you want to replicate Europe, stump up the cash because training a cadet sure as hell shouldn’t be a cost saving. Spend the money, train them appropriately and you are quite right, anyone can do it.
FYI the latest external Air NZ job listing no longer had jet time as a prerequisite. ATO time will suffice. The pool of externals has been depleted obviously with the rapid growth. When you say externals are more qualified we aren’t talking about Sully, Maverick and Goose lining up to fly an Airbus with a Koru on it these days.
The pool of externals has been depleted because no widebody Captain is coming home to sit at the bottom of a turboprop list, as they now fear - golden handcuffs and all that. It has little to do with the naive assessment that the “obvious rapid growth” is to blame.
Why would we need Sully, Mav and Goose - it’s just another aeroplane - just exactly who is putting the job on a “pedestal?”
The sooner the patronising propaganda line that a GOP list is going to disadvantage Link Pilots ends the better. For a start, if every course vacancy is filled via a GOP list (which includes the RSL at the bottom) then movement on to jet will be much quicker. At the moment there is a sense of rush to get on the list, to maximize your earning potential at the latter stage of your career. The rush would no longer be there and you could enjoy a decent career in regional and move on at a time that suits.
More people, less jobs - explain faster to me?
You might have your reasons to oppose the GOP list which are valid. But the ‘Jet boys’ looking out for our best interests isn’t one of them
28 and already so cynical! There are no new problems, and no new solutions my friend, the wheel just turns a full circle - the old boys have seen them all before, they have nothing to gain or lose, and many of them are indeed looking out for your best interests. No one thinks pilot development is enhanced by taking a 250hr pilot and have him not manipulate the controls 4 times a month, do you? 6 sectors a day on a turboprop might work though? Are you onboard now?
No one thinks $53k is enough to live on when required to live in Auckland, do you?
No one wants another clause in their contract that says “those employed before XX get....”
Everyone I’m sure is aware that the ill-advised rumour of the old boys challenging their position sparked a whole lot of paranoia. That threat can be controlled with legal jargon added to an amended CEA. If they don’t sign, they don’t get on GOP list but remain on an RSL.
Big of you to concede it was “ill-advised”, less so considering it “paranoia”. It’s your perception problem to fix since we, and we alone vote on the GOP list - maybe you should be more...polite? Again, as I suggested above, our intentions smack of self-interest, and yet these “old boys” are pure as driven snow? As it happens, I’d suggest they may be confused about what a GOP list is, as opposed to a joined seniority system some years down the track. Nonetheless if you can’t acknowledge the selfishness of those individuals but are prepared imply that “jet” pilots are similarly affected, then you’re being...naive, inconsistent...one of those?
Hows that rush for the door at regional going? Gangbusters yet?