And how the h*ll are they going to do that when I've been told by the little lady in the 'spin and dream' centre at Luton that I can't get my leave in and thats after they've just been buying back leave at a thousand quid a day and still stuffing the bat squarely where it doesnt belong at the same time!!!! And all this with silly mega days on and minimum days off. 5 and 3 is just another pipe dream to string us along and as for a CAA alleviations of the FTL rules.............! I'm really looking forward to the 0400 start, 12 hour duty and 6 sectors ... oh yeh. The PC must be blind to go along with this...guys yu're supposed to be on our side. lets hope that the CAA have their heads screwed on