mngmt mole if what you say is true why did they insult us with the "pay rise"? We've heard stories of things improving for years however this is the management that just introduced three man LRV flights. When they got caught out they then claimed we all misunderstood them and it was only an idea after taking guys off line and threatening them with demotion/firing for expressing concerns with their plans. That doesn't sound like a company that is worried about people leaving. Couple that with the fact that the acting DVSP FOP has openly said he's not worried about retention and more about recruitment and I'm not really sure where you think that they are now at panic mode. No one who has left recently has been asked what could be done to get them to stay so like others have said ill believe it when I see it. In the mean time their arrogance and hubris will continue unabated.