Well yes and no! what neither Andrew or any minister is fully conversant with what currently is the view from the other side of the table... and that view will be different to the outcome we are expecting that's for sure ... - it will not be an "ops normal" approach irrespective of the 3rd country capability, as the devil will be in the detail.. We all know the UK does not want to go from the top table to the tradesman door in priority but there does seem a huge amount of ignorance to the fallout that a less than palatable outcome is going to produce!