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Old 24th Dec 2017, 23:34
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Below the glide
 
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I’m not taking sides etc, however, saying a crew has good SA whereas the other crew didn’t. Doesn’t really fall into perspective.

Generally departing off 07R nowadays there a lot of waiting. 6-7 aircraft on H or J. Seems to me that when you’re cleared to line up, you have a little excitement spike in your SA, competing the check list, start lining up.

From J1 to J11 it’s around 3700m or so, at night, I doubt any bugger can see the aircraft starting or nearly crossed the end of the runway.

Yep, the CX crew at this point have a highest SA only due to the fact that they are crossing the runway and we’re cleared to. Hence. You’ll be alert of ‘cleared for takeoff runway 07R!

ATC have a significant element of blame here. As some one else mentioned, looking out the wondow does help, from a height. Out of the window 20ft up and 4K along a surface doesn’t too much.

Merry Christmas All.
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