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Old 5th Oct 2017, 21:47   #21 (permalink)
 
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I’m aware of Monarch crews being asked to help move some aircraft. Whether they took the offer up I have no idea but they were asked.
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Old 5th Oct 2017, 22:27   #22 (permalink)
 
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If not owned by the airline how can they be held for a debt?
Doesn't make any difference who the current operator is, if there are any outstanding charges the airport is entitled under the Civil Aviation Act to detain the aircraft until it gets paid.
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Old 5th Oct 2017, 22:33   #23 (permalink)
 
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With ships they traditionally nail a writ to the main mast.

What's the equivalent with aircraft? Sellotape it to the MLG and hope the dozy co-Joe does a proper job of his/her pre-flight inspection?
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Old 5th Oct 2017, 23:55   #24 (permalink)
 
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Doesn't make any difference who the current operator is, if there are any outstanding charges the airport is entitled under the Civil Aviation Act to detain the aircraft until it gets paid.
Yep, happened in BHX last year with a Air X CL850.
I was just thinking that the Local Debts would go wider than to airport, LBC with Company Rates / Taxes etc. Did MON own the HO Building....?
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What's the equivalent with aircraft? Sellotape it to the MLG and hope the dozy co-Joe does a proper job of his/her pre-flight inspection?
Blocking the aircraft in with a spare snowplough usually gets the message across.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 07:35   #26 (permalink)
 
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I believe they remove the aircraft's papers in addition to the sellotaped notices.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 09:36   #27 (permalink)
 
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That explains it, then

Having a shufti at FR24 a bit before midnight last night I saw what claimed to be an N-reg Cessna 172 climb out of Luton and head west, ending up at FL380 and 450kt. Had me scratching my head a bit.
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That explains it, then

I'm not sure what it explains.

What you observed on FR24 was Miami Air B738 N732MA sending a duff ICAO24.

It's been about quite a bit over the last few days, probably doing Monarch repatriation flights.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 12:09   #29 (permalink)
 
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the lone 738 has now gone too from BHX - was a Pegasus a/c but it has not as yet gone back to them
Was the Turkish B737 re-registered before departure? FR24 still has it at BHX.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 12:42   #30 (permalink)
 
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Luton still has its 4 Monarch's at the airport.
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Old 6th Oct 2017, 15:05   #31 (permalink)
 
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The leasing companies are using their own pilots to ferry the aircraft. No Monarch pilots are doing this job.
I'm afraid you're incorrect. Numerous (ex) Monarch pilots are positioning these aircraft. Yes, of course they're no longer Monarch pilots but they were a few days ago and are now doing these flights effectively as a contractor for the lessor/administrator.
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The Monarch aircraft sat at Luton are waiting on paperwork, not because money is owed to LAA.
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 05:59   #34 (permalink)
 
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Was the Turkish B737 re-registered before departure? FR24 still has it at BHX.
i gather the 737 has gone to Maastricht
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A bit of confusion here - yes, it's gone to Maastricht, but it didn't actually leave BHX until just after 8pm yesterday evening.

Noted on Mode S using its reg as Flight ID, so no indication of whose crew was flying it.
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i was given duff gen that the 737 left a couple of days ago
- it left yesterday
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Old 7th Oct 2017, 11:11   #37 (permalink)
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B737 G-ZBAV departed Maastricht for Woensdrecht this morning. Presumably came to MST because Woensdrecht was closed by 6PM or so yesterday. Seems strange not to just fly BHX-WOE this morning.

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According to Jethro G-OZBW/BX G-ZBAD/AH/AM/AS, G-MARA & G-OJEG have been deregistered, but not sure what the new regs are for these aircraft, unless they've been kept the same.
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According to Jethro G-OZBW/BX G-ZBAD/AH/AM/AS, G-MARA & G-OJEG have been deregistered, but not sure what the new regs are for these aircraft, unless they've been kept the same.
All the above were re-registered on 5-6/10 to assorted banks and lessors, but still with their original UK marks.
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G-ZBAS is reported to be coming to Maastricht tonight.
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