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I'm a huge fan of the L-1011. Is there any way of knowing where the portugese + globe jet aircraft are flying to and/or who they have contracts with at the moment? Also any other L-1011 that is flying around (sky gate, air charter express, etc..) is interesting ofcaurse. Im guessing they will start to have a lot of work now with the HAJJ season, would love to catch one in Europe somewhere!!!
Well the last Tristar in Ostend was a really sad story, it basically flew from the desert to Ostend, and then back a few years later (sometimes on 1 engine ). Since then only 1 L-1011 came to Ostend, EX-044. I'm hoping to see it again this Hajj season. Btw, can anywone tell me when the Hajj season starts and ends? And wht is the closest airport to Mekka/Medina?
And referring to my original post, I know what aircraft are operational as there are good sites for that like aerotransport.org. There are quite a few Tristars in service actually, not counting the UK AF, and the number is growing. What I really want to know is their flying activities, contracts with whom, the period of the lease, the destinations etc... I was hoping to find some kind of international 1011 spotters group.
Lol thx for the tip but I wasn't planning on spotting over there but on locations in Europe where they come to pick up the muslim's And ofcaurse on regular locations like this summer with OD-MIR @ EPWA. I'dd like to know stuff like that before it happens
Every year around this time you will hear of new start-up airlines obtaining the cheapest heaps of junk available, they will get these into flying condition and then chase Hajj contracts. Then the fun begins, if the aircraft keeps flying they may make enough money to survive the 3 month period and pay their crews, if not, then the crews will get dumped somewhere.
History repeats itself every year, L1011's, B747 Classics, DC10s and some Russian aircraft are usually used.
So yep, i would say that the ME is the L1011 recycling plant
What I really want to know is their flying activities, contracts with whom, the period of the lease, the destinations etc... I was hoping to find some kind of international 1011 spotters group.
As far as I can work out currently active and flying are TT-DWE c/n 1093 TT-DAE c/n 1101 from Tchad to wherever they can find loads. 9G-BSM c/n 1221 possibly for this years Hadj flights is in passenger configuration. LUZAIR CS-TMX c/n 1206 CS-TMP c/n 1248 CS-TEB c/n 1240 all operational from Lisbon but also sub chartering for European Holiday Flight companies (Flyjet and Monarch recently) Plus CS-TMR was stored Amsterdam for 3 years is now on deep maintenance at Victorville for return to service c/n 1241. GLOBEJET OD-MIR c/n 1246 OD-JOE c/n 1243 and OD-ZEE c/n 1239. Doing a lot of flights Gerona and Faro from Warsaw plus OD-HEO c/n 1103 stored. LINEJET new operator just ferried N194AT c/n 1230 from Miami to Amman via Lisbon for Hadj operations. ATA Airlines are still flying at least one of theirs N162AT c/n 1220 it flew as AMTRAN8900 across the pond on a reach flight Gander-Budapest Plus the grandest news of all PH-RST is reserved for c/n 1189 for World International Airways. Further news on this would be much appreciated. Have a look on here http://groups.yahoo.com/group/OldJets/?yguid=106321067 http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthread.php?t=283504 http://www.l1011.de/ Hope it helps Be lucky David
Few remarks though. I understand ATA still flies 161 through 164AT (-500 variants). Are the globejet chrters in Poland still going on? Can someone give me the reach flights' routings? I know they pass through Budapest but where do they come from and go to? What location is 'ME'? Manchester? You said N194AT is from Linejet? Isn't it Bourtequilah Air? I read the thread on the Cyprus outfit thing trying to get more on PH-RST, but I still can't make up if they are going to go through with it. Where will it fly from (AMS?) and for what, only Hadj or also charters like Luzair?
No I think he means Middle East. Manchester is MAN or EGCC.
You said N194AT is from Linejet? Isn't it Bourtequilah Air?
As I understand it ( and I may be wrong) Bourtequilah Air is the Cargo airline planning to start up in Cyprus.
I know they pass through Budapest but where do they come from and go to?
They originate in the USA after Budapest they go to Afghanistan They can come from anywhere in America The last one Amtran 8900 started in Biloxi - Gander- Budapest but the start point can vary. I dont think the Americans are too keen on publishing timetables for these flights. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AMT8900
trying to get more on PH-RST, but I still can't make up if they are going to go through with it. Where will it fly from (AMS?) and for what, only Hadj or also charters like Luzair?
I haven't got a clue. It is only a reservation at the moment and to the best of my knowledge they have not publicised their plans yet. The only World International Airways I can find on the net is a german airline sim http://fokker.airlinesim.4players.de...erprise?id=139 So we will have to be patient on this one.
Av Gas - your info is fairly up to date. PH-RST is under Interstate`s AOC. The acft should be delivered fairly soon. I understand 2 more will join but I have no idea where from but assume from Amman. Rumour also an additional L1011 Freighter may join next year. The passenger L1011 are planned for a route USA - Europe - India v.v
Why thank you kind sir, It would be good to know which airframes are currently at Amman or Ras al Khaymah. I understand plans are still in hand to repair c/n 1138 N306GB at Miami. That is a full STC freighter conversion and therefore quite a valuable airframe. After N194ATs escape I think the plan is to fly a suitable non F frame down from the desert to supply parts. It would be good to know which desert aircraft are potentially airworthy and which are not. Be lucky David
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Try www.interstateairlines.com its all there. Also 10 mins after entering the 1st thread......I opened Flight International issue 2nd-8th Oct....page 65 with the entire page taken by Interstate Looking for cockpit / engineers / cabin crew for the L1011 and also ATR......ATR they have operated for sometime.