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Old 4th Dec 2007, 22:14
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At Ouagadougou - Burkina Faso

03 DEC 2007
XT-BRK & XT-RAD - Kallat Elsaker Air (ex Globe Jet)
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DC-10 - Hajj

Didn't Iraqi Airways lease a Deathstar-10 in SA, for the Hadjj season?
A DC-10, S9-GAS (ex G-TAOS) flew on 1st Dec from JNB to BGW via Djibouti, call sign IAW 1111 and was seen in JED on the 3rd. White color with tail and engines blue.
http://www2.airliners.net/open.file/1070781/M/

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Old 5th Dec 2007, 19:35
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Hi

Just read from a german l-1011 site that the Stargazer machine will be updated with 524 engines at Victorville, anyone know anymore about it?
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OSC re-engine

Hi I was speaking with a crew member from OSC and he tells me the aircraft will have it's -524's installed by Marshall Aerospace in Feb/Mar 2008
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According to a mate of mine that still works in Lockheed product support, the work on the Orbital Science aircraft will be accomplished in Victorville. This make sense because Orbital has bought an old Delta aircraft, currently stored in Victorville, to get the engines, ducts, instruments and other bits and pieces required to fit RB-211-524 on a -22 airframe.
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Hi

According to this source the first RAF TRISTAR is starting the avionics upgrade by Marshall Aerospace.

http://www.flightglobal.com/articles...s-upgrade.html

This will include according to the Marshall site:

"The Navigation system consists of a triple Flight Management System (FMS), Triple Inertial Reference Systems, Dual Nav 4000 VOR/ILS/ADF, DME 4000 and the GPS provides the source information for the Lateral Navigation modes.

The Flight Deck Display System (FDS) uses five 6x8 inch Active Matrix Liquid Crystal Displays (AMLCD). The Engine Instruments and Engine Pressure Ratio Indicator are displayed on the centrally mounted display.

An AMLCD Integrated Standby Instrument System provides attitude, altitude, speed and heading information.

Dual VHF 4000 radios provide communications and ACARS Datalink capability. Dual RTU 4200 radio tuning systems control the navigation and communications systems in parallel with the FMS.

Finally, with the recently installed IFF, TCAS and EGPWS, the system complies with CNS/ATM regulations and provides RNP1 capability."

My question is, will it be possible for a civilian or private Tristar to get this same upgrade?.

Cheerio

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Can´t wait to see a picture of the new instrument panel.
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Dual (or triple) Honeywell HT9100 GPS units will provide RNP1, full GPS steering, and can, with a software upgrade, be compatable for RNP0.3...at considerably less cost.
No fancy glass, of course, I suspect however that this would not work for the RAF, as the Brits have an adversion to stand alone GPS units.
It's called the ...'not invented here' syndrome.

Their loss, civil operators gain
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Tristar Glass cockpit

Hi
Marshall Aerospace are just about to start the installation of this upgrade.
there is no reason why this upgrade could not be installed on any Tristar.

I have a artist pic of it but am unable to paste it on to the site.
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It could be that we just don't like being dependant on a system that one one person ( without beating about the Bush) has the ability to switch the whole system off
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Little know fact . . .

For all those "Lost" fans out there.... did you know the production team bought the ex Delta L.1011, N783DL for use in the series.

How sad am I to have stumbled across this . . . . .
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As fond i my be of this aircraft type i am disapointed that once again as with the Nimrod our Air Force must put up with 70,s aircraft. I fail to see if the type had trouble operating profitably 25 years ago that they can do so now. Once again the taxpayer picks up the bill for Ministry and government actions or lack of them.
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Comparing the Nimrod to the L1011 is a bit of a red herring.
The Nimrod is operating in an everchanging Electronic Environment requiring more equipment more weight more more power more everything.

The L1011 role carrying freight or pax or refuelling is basically the same.
The L1011 because of it pedigree has no problem in operating for several more years supposedly until 2012+
When you talk about poor old taxpayer footing the bill how much do you think we would be paying to have a new shiny Airbus or Boeing designed and built . an what would it do that the L1011 can't do ?
The MOD are able to buy all the spares they need very cheap so I dont really see the problem
For once I think they have got it right !!
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I fail to see if the type had trouble operating profitably 25 years ago that they can do so now.
Really?
Shhhhh, don't tell DAL about this.

They had (IIRC) 69 of these Lockheed three-holers, and according to a senior VP I spoke with just after they retired the last one (his words, exactly)..."The L1011 made us more money than any other airplane, ever."

Not so bad after all...
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Interstate airlines

Hi
Does anyone know what is happening with Interstate airlines?
Have they got thier L1011 yet? If not does anyone know if/when they are getting it.
Did they get many replies to they ad for Pilots & ground staff?
Who are they going to be flying for ( ACMI)?
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Found this on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SyjP1XnojY
Comments and observations appreciated.
Be lucky
David
P.S. Given the lack of anything to give scale I personally think its an RC model, would love it to be real though.
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Interstate airlines
Hi
Does anyone know what is happening with Interstate airlines?
Have they got thier L1011 yet? If not does anyone know if/when they are getting it.
Did they get many replies to they ad for Pilots & ground staff?
Who are they going to be flying for ( ACMI)?


Were they tied in on 411A's aircraft package?
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Old 21st Dec 2007, 09:31
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Were they tied in on 411A's aircraft package?
Ah...no.
But we are open to co-operation.
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Aerobatic TriStar

Re:
Found this on you tube.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SyjP1XnojY
Comments and observations appreciated.
Be lucky
David
P.S. Given the lack of anything to give scale I personally think its an RC model, would love it to be real though.


...TAP pilot by any chance?
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Old 21st Dec 2007, 09:50
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Just a point on profit making. The L1011 made most if not all of its profits when the industry could charge what it liked I believe.
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Just a point on profit making. The L1011 made most if not all of its profits when the industry could charge what it liked I believe
Generally not true.

Cheap fuel. Ask a few retired DAL execs and they will tell you the story.
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