South Asia and Far East WannabesA forum for those applying to Cathay Pacific, Dragonair or any other Hong Kong-based airline or operator. Use this area for both Direct Entry Pilot and Cadet-scheme queries.
The answer to your question is very simple.... read the last 190 pages of this thread and all will be revealed..... or you can just hope someone will be kind enough to help someone who is acting in a very lazy way....
newFE - Here it goes, if this is what you're looking for.
Advanced Entry – a 32-week programme for applicants who possess an ICAO CPL and have in excess of 250 hours flight time in specified categories.
Training is conducted at Flight Training Adelaide, Adelaide, Australia. Training consists of technical ground school, HK ATPL subjects and flight training. All programmes introduce and/or consolidate jet aircraft operation, multi-crew operations, safety standards, efficient operation, passenger considerations and flight operation disciplines.
Successful completion of your Second Officer entry program at FTA in Adelaide will qualify you for selection as a Cathay Pacific Second Officer. Induction to Cathay occurs in Hong Kong where you will undergo a conversion course onto your new wide body aircraft. The Cathay conversion will consist of systems and procedures ground training, simulator training, and flight training taking between 3 to 5 months to become a fully qualified crew member.
To be considered for a flying career with us you must:
Have an excellent command of written and spoken English Be physically fit and qualify for a Class I Medical Meet flight deck reach requirements which is subject to a functional reach test Have completed secondary school and have good passes in mathematics and science, or have a degree or diploma, or have passes in all ATPL subjects Share our passion for aviation
All the guys who knows that this thread exists should be aware that the answers are all within. It is not that the info cannot be PM to you, but after you have gone through the pages, you will be able to make out a trend as well as know quite a bit about the culture, pros and cons and after that, what you DO NOT understand, I am sure many guys will be able to help you.
Basic info - What do you already know about the company. Have you read through the CX website and absorbed all the media releases as well as company fact sheets. Have you googled aviation news updates on CX and its acquisitions and business model, challenges as well as future developments.
Reading and reference material - Books like 'Beyond Lion's Rock, Syd's Pirates, The 49'ers Story provide historical background. Can be ordered on Kindle or hardcopies from amazon.
Technical info - Wikipedia, Aircraft info, HK geography/weather trends and demographics.
Reading and interview prep material - How to ace the pilot interviews. Aerodynamics for Naval Aviators, Fly the wing, How to Fly the Big Jets, Aviation Weather. All these are similarly avail at most pilot stores or Kindle versions and hardcopies.
All the other tests will be based on your experience and education. It ALL well described in the past 100 pages at least. Info from 2010 is more than sufficient.
After you have done all that and STILL have queries, PM me I will be glad to assist.
I don't see what's wrong with asking for what's involved with the two (reasonings and personality tests). I understand you cannot really practice a psych test but I am more asking for what to expect, format, tricks, tips (time orientated) etc so no surprises with the process...not answers! Having never taken one before, I think this is a fair question...no?
hmmmm that book was published around 2001 and is rather obsolete if i remember correctly...
The 11th Edition of the book was actually published in 2005 and thats the one I am offering. I realise that this is now 7 years later and I do agree that the company has changed some and the recruitment process has been altered. But obsolete? I disagree. Yes, some portions are out-of-date (fleet size, etc) but the up-to-date information can be accessed via the website.
However, during my preparation I was recommended the book by someone who is currently now on the AE program in Adelaide, and I myself passed the 2nd Stage at the beginning of the month. I found some of the information useful and was asked a few questions in my interview from sections in the book. Obviously every interview is different.
I'm not too concerned about offloading the book, just thought I would put it on offer for anyone who is considering the 1st or 2nd stages and is looking for information that could help them, rather than 190-some pages of a thread that has a lot of arguing and conflicting information. I personally did not find much thread info beneficial for preparing for the interview process.
With that, all the best to applicants and current pilots of CX, and if anyone is interested, PM me.
Hey, does anyone know if HKID holders hold any advantages to the ones that do not? And it seems like a lot of people here are after the Advanced Entry (at least 250 flying hours in hand)? Because they no longer accept non HKID holders to apply without 250 hours? am i correct?
Correct you wont be consider unless you have a CPL with 250 hours if you DONT have a HK ID. The reason for is HK immigration does not recongise a cadet as a skill labour who does not have a CPL and 250 hours. Indeed, if you look into Hong Kong nowadays, the city is way overloaded with mainland China tourist plus a consistent growth of the population itself. I think they just cant letting oversea labour comes in and in nonstop.
Personally I really don't think there is an advantage if you have a HKID. I believe you are just competing in a different programme which is the 61 weeks one. Before 2008, this programme was only for HKID holder anyway, but just because aviation in HK is not such a popular topic, a lot of young people don't even have the chance to taste what aviation is all about, with a result a lot of them cant actually fulfill the basic requirement of the Cadet programme hence CX opened up to international applicants.