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Forum: Private Flying
14th Mar 2015, 12:17
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

We don't have a 45 degree downwind join in the...

We don't have a 45 degree downwind join in the UK.


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
13th Mar 2015, 22:33
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

I think that this was the most dangerous action...

I think that this was the most dangerous action taken during this incident.

The PA28 claims to have turned base over a recognised feature (the lakes) although it seems unlikely that any recognised...
Forum: Private Flying
23rd Feb 2015, 23:40
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

I don't think anyone is advocating descending...

I don't think anyone is advocating descending directly into the pattern, Sky. We don't do that here, or in the USA.

I think that the 45 midfield downwind join is best for you, because that's what...
Forum: Private Flying
21st Feb 2015, 23:26
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

I think this would qualify as a collision...

I think this would qualify as a collision avoidance, Mike. ;)



This is similar to our 'Deadside Join', Sky, but our Overhead Join is very different to yours, in that, rather than descending...
Forum: Private Flying
21st Feb 2015, 14:23
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

It's a little of each. There's a rule that...

It's a little of each.

There's a rule that says that aircraft must conform with the traffic pattern, and make all turns to the left, unless otherwise indicated from the ground.

Most people...
Forum: Private Flying
21st Feb 2015, 13:59
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Not over here, Sky. Not that it stops people...

Not over here, Sky. Not that it stops people doing just that! I've met such aircraft head on downwind and final, several times now!



What do you call it?

A small, but significant proportion...
Forum: Private Flying
21st Feb 2015, 11:39
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Of course it's ok to do this downwind, when...

Of course it's ok to do this downwind, when requested in a controlled environment.

Not at an uncontrolled airfield though.


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
21st Feb 2015, 02:17
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Never say never, Sky. The rule says all...

Never say never, Sky.

The rule says all turns must be to the left, but in an emergency avoiding a collision takes presedence.




Aircraft shouldn't overtake others in the circuit, and...
Forum: Private Flying
20th Feb 2015, 20:10
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Always happy to help, Bob. We Limeys have to...

Always happy to help, Bob. We Limeys have to stick together! ;)


MJ:ok:

Ps. Dan, It's good to see you are still with us after 8 pages. Most OPs would have lost the will to live by now! :D
Forum: Private Flying
20th Feb 2015, 20:00
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

I think when Bob said that those items are not in...

I think when Bob said that those items are not in the syllabus here, he mant that they are not specifically included, but covered under another exercise. 'Operation/navigation at minimum level'...
Forum: Private Flying
20th Feb 2015, 17:48
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

My thiughts exactly, Bob. PPRune is a...

My thiughts exactly, Bob.



PPRune is a great place to find out what you have been missing! ;)


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
20th Feb 2015, 17:14
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Just what I was thinking. When asked to orbit...

Just what I was thinking. When asked to orbit downwimnd by ATC, just circle over a landmark, at whatever angle of bank you would feel comfortable making any of the level turns in the circuit.

Same...
Forum: Private Flying
20th Feb 2015, 14:30
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

In the UK the only rule we have is that, for...

In the UK the only rule we have is that, for position reporting, 'Final' can be anywhere between 0 and 4 nm, and 'Long Final' anywhere between 4 and 8nm.

There is no official definition for...
Forum: Private Flying
20th Feb 2015, 14:12
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Usually, the Instructor will give ATC a 'heads...

Usually, the Instructor will give ATC a 'heads up' that this student is a potential First Solo when booking out, or tell them on the radio just before you go.



Nobody should be sent solo unless...
Forum: Private Flying
20th Feb 2015, 13:52
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

:eek: Of all the things I see in...

:eek:


Of all the things I see in uncontrolled circuits, I think orbiting on base and final are the most dangerous!



I hope you respectfully told them where to shove that instruction.

I...
Forum: Private Flying
20th Feb 2015, 10:46
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Depends where you think the 'final approach to...

Depends where you think the 'final approach to land' starts. If someone calls 'Final at 15 miles' does that mean that you can't turn 'base' in front of them?

My view is that, for traffic joining...
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 17:21
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Your point about keeping the other aircraft in...

Your point about keeping the other aircraft in front of you to more easilly keep it in sight is a good one, Sky. When we 'cut up' or 'cut off' another aircraft, we often loose sight of it, and thus...
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 15:54
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Yes, Scoob. That's how it's supposed to work. ...

Yes, Scoob. That's how it's supposed to work.

Have a word with the 'big circuit' pilot on the ground later to find out what was the reason for the long downwind.

Having said that, it could also...
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 13:28
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Nobody could argue with that, Mac.;) ...

Nobody could argue with that, Mac.;)


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 13:11
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Ah, I see. I don't think Mac meant...

Ah, I see.



I don't think Mac meant that he wasn't able to do that, PA, just that he didn't want to.


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 12:38
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Not quite sure what you want us to observe from...

Not quite sure what you want us to observe from the two clips, Mac. :confused:


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 10:25
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Ah yes. I went to one of those once. :eek: ...

Ah yes. I went to one of those once. :eek:

;)


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 09:58
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

:eek: Surely you don't mean these ', 'toast...

:eek: Surely you don't mean these ', 'toast crumbs'? ;)


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 09:53
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

It's an interesting question, Bingo, and the...

It's an interesting question, Bingo, and the answer would depend, very much, on what you consider to be a 'standard circuit'

If we consider a few commonly followed conventions we could suggest a...
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 09:23
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

The calls are just position reports, and should...

The calls are just position reports, and should not constitute a claim to 'right of way'

This is a grey area, as the rules regarding rights of way, and flight in the vicinity of an airfield are...
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 08:59
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Why would you indicate that you were between 4...

Why would you indicate that you were between 4 and 8 miles away from Bagby, or any other airfield, when you were, in fact only 1 mile away?


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 08:43
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

A call of 'Long Final' indicartes that you are on...

A call of 'Long Final' indicartes that you are on the centreline, and between 4 and 8 miles out.



If you are behind another aircraft downwind, and you then turn final in front of it, you have...
Forum: Private Flying
19th Feb 2015, 07:03
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

I think it has long been accepted by most people...

I think it has long been accepted by most people as implicit in this statement that the onus is on traffic joining the circuit to make adjustments to their track and speed to 'fit in' with traffic...
Forum: Private Flying
18th Feb 2015, 21:08
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

I agree. Bob. It seems more and more the...

I agree. Bob.

It seems more and more the case now though, that each aerodrome has circuit patterns, and joining procedures unique to that aerodrome.


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
18th Feb 2015, 21:00
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Indeed it could, and, calling 'Long Final'...

Indeed it could, and, calling 'Long Final' doesn't give you right of way. You may still be joining an established traffic pattern with an aircraft turning from base to 'Final' at anything up to 4...
Forum: Private Flying
18th Feb 2015, 20:43
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Except perhaps, when joining 'straight in, and on...

Except perhaps, when joining 'straight in, and on 'Long Final'.


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
18th Feb 2015, 20:29
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

10 Miles is neither on 'Final' or 'Long Final' ...

10 Miles is neither on 'Final' or 'Long Final'


MJ:ok:
Forum: Private Flying
18th Feb 2015, 20:19
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Not all of us, but some may be! No. I...

Not all of us, but some may be!



No. I actually suggest that visual approaches in light aircraft with 3 degree PAPIs available should be flown with 3 white/one red, whatever that may have to...
Forum: Private Flying
18th Feb 2015, 20:02
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

It would also help if pilots would use the terms...

It would also help if pilots would use the terms 'Final' = Up to 4nm out, and 'Long Final' = between 4 and 8 miles out, correctly.

Or, even better, make final calls with distances, when joining...
Forum: Private Flying
18th Feb 2015, 04:05
Replies: 211
Views: 24,841
Posted By Mach Jump

Hi Dan. You both did the right thing....

Hi Dan.

You both did the right thing. There's nothing wrong with joining 'straight in', so long as you accept that, as the one joining the circuit, you are the one who must give way if you come...
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