THY lands on taxiway
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THY lands on taxiway
It was CAVOK, no significant wind, daytime, the sun was behind (not upfront) (RWY 29 by morning), kind of unusual...
Incident: THY B738 at Bodrum on Mar 13th 2014, landed on taxiway
Incident: THY B738 at Bodrum on Mar 13th 2014, landed on taxiway
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Pilot's are under the investigation
Turkish Airlines stopped the pilot's flight until finish the investigation
THY O PİLOTLARIN UÇUŞLARINI KESTİ
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Thomson did the same at Paphos.
Looks, like the airport authority has made it easier now to differentiate now.
Particularly easy to do at Paphos as the taxiway is on the opposite side of the apron.
Very easy to do I'm sure, just hope it doesn't happen to me.
Looks, like the airport authority has made it easier now to differentiate now.
Particularly easy to do at Paphos as the taxiway is on the opposite side of the apron.
Very easy to do I'm sure, just hope it doesn't happen to me.
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There are a lot of airfields susceptible to this. Nice is another, where there are four parallel runway sized strips, but only two are runways. Runway markings aren't always visible, especially when landing into a low sun with haze, dust or wet surfaces, never mine in low vis. Even colouring the tarmac might not help in such conditions. Does anyone know if the runway is simply designated "29", or is it referred to as "29 left", as may be more helpful in preventing such events?
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Back in the day, the story got around that a particular M 404 Captain picked up the mike and notified the tower that "delta is on the other end of the runway" in atl, after landing.
Then the delta flight broadcast: " I wasnt going to say anything Southern, but you just landed on the taxiway."
Later in my career I saw two delta dc 8's in Atl, on a runway, both having their nose in the air at a 45 degree angle, both still on the ground. One landing, one taking off. Noone said a word.
Then the delta flight broadcast: " I wasnt going to say anything Southern, but you just landed on the taxiway."
Later in my career I saw two delta dc 8's in Atl, on a runway, both having their nose in the air at a 45 degree angle, both still on the ground. One landing, one taking off. Noone said a word.
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Didn't it happen at Gatwick many moons ago and is the reason that the northern parallel taxiway has a big kink in it?
Heard the story ages ago so would like to know if it actually happened or not.
Heard the story ages ago so would like to know if it actually happened or not.
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Didn't it happen at Gatwick many moons ago
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Hotel Tango This one is about Bodrum. Do we really have to go through all the other similar incidents yet again?! Why not keep the discussion focused on this particular event?
However on December 12th 2012 in a thread about TCAS you said
but I'm more interested in why and can it be avoided in the future
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Not quite sure what this has to do with my comments on a TCAS thread 15 months ago. Nevertheless, I'm far more interested in knowing why it happened in Bodrum, a fairly busy airport, and more importantly to a regular local operator. What happened in Gatwick in 1993 is by now of little consequence. Paphos was more recent and the authorities made some changes. What is important is what went wrong, and why, in Bodrum.
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You seemed to be happy for an historical perspective in the TCAS thread. I am suggesting that there may ( who knows) be lessons to be learned from previous events which MAY have a potentially similar set of causal and aggravating factors. It can't hurt to look.
As someone who spent a lot of the end of my career as an investigator I would be interested in the common (if any) threads.
As someone who spent a lot of the end of my career as an investigator I would be interested in the common (if any) threads.
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According to Turkish news sources the Romanian Captain who has been suspended from flying duty, has claimed the incident arose as a result of ILS malfunction.
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Is it considered an 'incident'? if so,it will be interesting to see if Turkish Airlines is standing by its foreign pilots even in difficult times or let them go as any contract airlines may do...
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Is it customary in the most briefest of press announcements, following an incident, to disclose the nationality of the commander.
Could it not possibly be interpreted as "not one of ours". What does the pilot`s nationality got to do with where he lands an aircraft. Unless of course all runways back home were narrow or it was permitted to use any empty stretch of a motorway, which would immediately explain the whole thing and all concerned would be relieved in the knowledge it was nothing extraordinary, that any pilot well experienced in landings on narrow strips of asphalt would save his passangers and the airline time and fuel.
There have been many similar incidents, but I do not recal the nationality of the air crew being announced at the very start by the airline or the press. Just as the wisdom of the Malaysian Airlines statements have been brought to question, so can this one.
I think the mention of nationality is not just unwise but rather unsavoury also. I just wonder whether it was the airline who released/leaked this information to the press or some other person.
Could it not possibly be interpreted as "not one of ours". What does the pilot`s nationality got to do with where he lands an aircraft. Unless of course all runways back home were narrow or it was permitted to use any empty stretch of a motorway, which would immediately explain the whole thing and all concerned would be relieved in the knowledge it was nothing extraordinary, that any pilot well experienced in landings on narrow strips of asphalt would save his passangers and the airline time and fuel.
There have been many similar incidents, but I do not recal the nationality of the air crew being announced at the very start by the airline or the press. Just as the wisdom of the Malaysian Airlines statements have been brought to question, so can this one.
I think the mention of nationality is not just unwise but rather unsavoury also. I just wonder whether it was the airline who released/leaked this information to the press or some other person.
I REALLY SHOULDN'T BE HERE
Another good reminder for those in the pointy end not to brief by rote, rather to pick out the real threats pertinent to the flight and ground phases of operation - incidents like this frequently end up not being accidents purely by luck. "When we become visual I expect to see xyz / I have been here before and I know runway markings are indistinct / the approach light system is usually not illuminated during the day etc etc" Identify the threats, then decide and communicate how you are going to mitigate them. We all make mistakes, the trick is learning to avoid the big ones.