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Old 8th Mar 2014, 00:24   #1 (permalink)
 
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Malaysian Airlines MH370 contact lost

The authorities have begun a search and rescue for Malaysia Airlines (MAS) flight MH370 after the Beijing-bound plane lost contact with air traffic controllers this morning, the airline said today.

MAS said flight MH370 lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2.40am.

The B777-200 aircraft left the Kuala Lumpur International Airport at 12.41am and was expected to land in Beijing at 6.30am.


"The flight was carrying 227 passengers (including two infants), 12 crew members," the airline said in a statement.

"Malaysia Airlines is currently working with the authorities who have activated their search and rescue team to locate the aircraft," it added. – March 8, 2014.
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 00:27   #2 (permalink)
 
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B777-200 - ATC have lost all contact, search teams deployed.
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 00:30   #3 (permalink)
 
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Also just confirmed on Sky News at 00.26 today (Saturday 8th March)

Looks like the plane has already been missing for five to six hours but that details have only just been released to the press by the airline and/or local authorities

Sadly doesn't look at all hopeful.

This is potentially only the second hull loss of a 777 involving fatalities in flight despite more than 1,000 being in service and also potentially the first one ever involving the loss of all passengers and crew on board. Until the crash landing of Asiana Airlines Flight 214 at San Francisco International Airport on 6th July 2013 (resulting in the death of three passengers and the injury of most passengers on board, twelve with critical injuries) there had been no fatalities involving the hull loss of a Boeing 777. There were no fatalities but a significant number of injuries (none life threatening but one serious) when BA's 777-200ER (G-YMMM - serial number 30314) landed 270 metres (890 feet) short of runway 27L at London Heathrow on 17th January 2008.

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Old 8th Mar 2014, 00:39   #4 (permalink)
 
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Anyone know of the safety record of Malaysia Airlines? My own view would be quite a reputable airline?
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:00   #5 (permalink)
 
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From the airline's own website page at MH370 Flight Incident | Malaysia Airlines

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Saturday, March 08, 07:30 AM MYT +0800 Media Statement - MH370 Incident released at 7.24am

Sepang, 8 March 2014: Malaysia Airlines confirms that flight MH370 has lost contact with Subang Air Traffic Control at 2.40am, today (8 March 2014).


Flight MH370, operated on the B777-200 aircraft, departed Kuala Lumpur at 12.41am on 8 March 2014. MH370 was expected to land in Beijing at 6.30am the same day. The flight was carrying a total number of 227 passengers (including 2 infants), 12 crew members.


Malaysia Airlines is currently working with the authorities who have activated their Search and Rescue team to locate the aircraft.


The airline will provide regular updates on the situation. Meanwhile, the public may contact +603 7884 1234 for further info.
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:03   #6 (permalink)
 
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Aircraft missing is 9M-MRO Boeing, B777-2H6 (ER) (B772) - cn: 28420
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:07   #7 (permalink)
 
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If FlightAware is correct (which it may not be), looks like it had just reached FL350 when contact was lost.

Flight Track Log ? MAS370 ? 08-Mar-2014 ? WMKK / KUL - ZBAA / PEK ? FlightAware
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:08   #8 (permalink)
 
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Anecdotally, it's great. Landed last month in BKI in the dark in heavy rain and extremely limited visibility (as a pax). Actually, pondered why they proceeded.

Eta: replying to query regarding MH's safety record

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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:08   #9 (permalink)
 
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Just an update according to FR24, the flight was detected as landed 39 mins after it departed Kuala Lumpur, a flight tracker image released shows the last traceable information was within that time frame, it looks to me like two things;

Either complete radio failure
OR
The aircraft has gone down within Malaysia

However the first theorem is compounded by the fact the aircraft is missing past its arrival time in Beijing by nearly 2hrs 40mins well outside required reserves.

I just hope I'm wrong.
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:09   #10 (permalink)
 
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ASN Aircraft accident 09-AUG-2012 Boeing 777-2H6ER 9M-MRO
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:09   #11 (permalink)
 
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safety record is pretty good...

...from Wikipedia...not bad for an airlines of that size (100+) in the environment they are flying in...

4 December 1977 - Malaysia Airlines Flight 653, a Boeing 737-200 (9M-MBD) was hijacked and crashed in Tanjung Kupang, Johor, killing all 100 people aboard. It remains the deadliest crash of all time in Malaysia up to this day.

15 September 1995 - Malaysia Airlines Flight 2133, a Fokker 50 (9M-MGH) crashed during approach in Tawau, Sabah due to pilot error. 34 people were killed.[73]
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:11   #12 (permalink)
 
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any wx info for route of flight?
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:11   #13 (permalink)
 
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Flightware shows that it did not go far. Would coverage be that limited there? Or, would the search area be that close to their departure?
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:13   #14 (permalink)
 
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Last data from ADS-B is about an hour before at FL350 half way across the Gulf (although seems others say different).

Company Facebook statement here.

Really hoping for some good news
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I can assume that there is no signal from the ELT. So unless they pulled it out, I doubt any good news will be forthcoming.
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:27   #16 (permalink)
 
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AQIS Boigu Thanks for the information!

China Authorities have confirmed the flight never entered Chinese Airspace, and FlightAware have said the last recorded information shows the aircraft at 35,000 ft and 468kts - Information for MH370 was lost 20mins after departure
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:33   #17 (permalink)
 
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Unless my timezone maths is wrong the last data from FR24 is about 1hr 40min before LOC with atc. So assuming they carried on they would be over central Vietnam.

Lots of other planes showing up on the map in the region so either the transponder stopped for some reason or (more likely) the data never made it to FR24.
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:42   #18 (permalink)
 
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Flight Aware often does not have complete data. Airline statement says they departed at 12:41am and lost contact about two hours later at 2:40am. Looking at the Flight Aware estimated positions (at 1:42 since that data set has departure at 11:43am), they would have been flying above the mountains/jungles of south central Laos about that time, around 200Km due west of Da Nang, Vietnam. Not good news at all.
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Man I hope this guy is correct.


Ridzuan Chan Abd Rzd Latest unofficial update. Landed in Nan Ming - cockpit electronics malfunction...yet to b confirmed.
11 8 minutes ago
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Old 8th Mar 2014, 01:51   #20 (permalink)
 
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Reports now saying airline has begun notifying next of kin. Doesn't sound good.

So any reasons why the ads-b data would have cutout over an hour before they reported LOC to radar somewhere over Vietnam? (Beyond just spotty web based tracking tools...)
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