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Old 11th Feb 2008, 21:37   #1 (permalink)
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Swiss Avro Greaser in LCY

this one has it all:

nice crosswind, possible windshear, hard landing, possible tailstrike, massive wingflex, 2.5 bounces, nosewheel touchdown before mains & nice drift!

no idea when but no, it's not the one that ended up on the barge.

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Old 11th Feb 2008, 22:05   #2 (permalink)
 
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Ouch! But they walked away from it........
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Old 11th Feb 2008, 22:10   #3 (permalink)
 
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Holy *hit that one is bad!!

I start flying them soon based at LCY... must learn how to fly again!!
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Old 11th Feb 2008, 22:16   #4 (permalink)
 
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ouch
what a great find!!
That nose wheel got a good work out too....
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 00:11   #5 (permalink)
 
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Thumbs down

They should not have continued that approach ...
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 02:10   #7 (permalink)
 
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Must have a been a few holes in the seat while trying to keep it straight on the runway with only the nosewheel and right man. Thumbs up to those designers at Avro. They built it as tough as a C-152 which is good in todays environment with alot of low timers coming off C-150's straight into a jet
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 04:04   #8 (permalink)
 
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http://www.youtube.com/v/UG8HfLsZqs0

I thought I had a good understanding of how the Lift Spoiler system on the hushpuppy worked but after seeing that now I'm not so sure...
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how can you have 2.5 bounces ?


Two or three surely ?
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 04:34   #10 (permalink)

 
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Watching the primary flight controls spills the beans.

No understanding of crosswind landings.
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 05:11   #11 (permalink)
 
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Is this the same jet that was subsequently grounded at LCY, had the titles quickly painted over, and was unceremoniously shipped out of there on a barge last year?
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I think the 'thumbs up' should be given to the designers at De Havilland - the reason its called Avro RJ etc is more to do with the shutdown of Hatfield and the transfer of everything to Woodford- then that bit of BAe Commercial Aircraft business was re-badged as 'Avro'- I know I've still got my Avro name tag. Didn't the 146 have some 'rugged runway' capability as part of its early ( (1980's) sales blurb.
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 09:27   #13 (permalink)
 
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Wow... That's an amazing advert for the strength of the airframe.

That sort of technique (or lack of it) is generally reserved for landing on aircraft carriers in a rough sea. Maybe they were doing trials for the Swiss Navy?
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Looks like it's still going sideways even as the clip ends.
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 09:45   #15 (permalink)
 
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Should be fun trying that in a A318 after a long, dark trans-atlantic crossing

Damn difficult to hit the tail in a 318 tho
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 09:48   #16 (permalink)
 
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Exclamation

The one shipped out was in Star Alliance livery,
the one in the Video has the reguolar swiss painting!
Bit seeing this Video I would like to know what happend to the other Avro.
I think they must suffered the same hard landing but including a heavy tail strike!
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 09:57   #17 (permalink)
 
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woah

I operate into LCY on a regular basis and let me tell you that was an absolute disgrace! (famous last words!) It seemed like he put the nose down just as it enters the frame? Maybe I'm wrong but it could explain the hard touchdown, Note the white lights either side of the centre line, just on the last set of instrument markers. The aircraft must have touched down by those lights but as you can see he was well short of that limit, which seems to suggest that he did actually stuff the nose down for whatever reason. You can experence a loss of energy even that far into the landing phase but putting the nose down was the wrong response, Just needs alot of power to be added until an airspeed decrease is arrested

Happy Landings into LCY everyone!

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Old 12th Feb 2008, 10:21   #18 (permalink)
 
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thats an old video and was previously posted
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Old 12th Feb 2008, 10:27   #19 (permalink)
 
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Lcy - Avro Greaser

The last landing I saw that came close to the one on this thread was made by a Buccaneer! At least its uc was designed for carrier landings and the no flare arrival was deliberate!

Must have shaken loose a few fillings methinks....

Crew must either be very tyro or former navy pilots. One shudders to think of the consequences of lift dump devices failing to deploy due to a damaged microswitch.

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I know it is a steep approach, but that ROD near the ground was horrific! And the crosswind technique?!?

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