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Old 18th Apr 2012, 11:25
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I'm surprised that an ex RAF pilot would have the audacity to allow himself to be seen thus:



But maybe I'm old fashioned and don't see commercialisation of the wings badge as quite the right sort of thing to do?
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His address doesn't inspire confidence either...

22 Yaffle Cresent, Desborough, Northants, NN14 2GB - Google Maps

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I am guessing he was chopped from his RAF pilot course, I wonder at what stage ?

Edit: I guess I am wrong as he has his wings in the picture below, confused now ! All very odd

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Words such as Ponzi and pyramid (Amway?) come to mind, I must admit his home address is rather modest for a Forex trader - that has made some money.

Ex Royal Air Force Pilot turned profitable Network Marketer looking for Driven and Motivated People (Glasgow)

Job Description

Im a partner with a successful major British Plc in the London Stock Market. Together we show households and Smes massive savings off all shopping petrol and essentials (energy telephony. Im looking for distributors to help sell our Award Winning services to the masses. The profits of this rare Part Time opportunity can be great however potential candidates Must Be driven and motivated Ambitious and keen on making good money Chatty and friendly Not have a criminal record Above all Serious about changing your life to escape the Rat Race I will be investing a lot of my time in training and mentoring you to success to the level I have reached therefore time-wasters will be ignored. Will only take on motivated people Serious about changing their financial life situation. Previous sales training Not required. To be considered applicants must state What is your No.1 priority Why that one Why is that important to you what are the consequences of not having it Does that worry you? Why What differs you from the many? If you answer my questions a Cv is optional. Regards Siam Kidd siamkidd aol.com
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Yes this guy seems perfect marketing and sales in the civilian helicopter market.
" Yes Sir, this lovely second hand Augusta 109 was owned by one careful lady driver.......... That's right I will only take the deposit in cash ".

Fluffy

But honestly the guy that is pictured maybe a really nice guy, the above mentioned is mearley pointing out what can happen in this industry.

(is that enough of a disclaimer....)
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Old 18th Apr 2012, 13:36
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Well, if everyone's going to have a go at this guy, how about this:

Siam Kidd - Ex RAF Pilot (for which the url is siamshrinksyourbills.c0.uk)

ABOUT ME
Hello there, my name is Siam and I was born and bred in Norwich, Norfolk. For the last 7 years, I've been busy on active duty as a Royal Air Force Pilot and over this time have flown over 10 different aircraft types ranging from small to large aircraft and even helicopters. I've travelled the world and seen and done many extraordinary things for which I feel very privileged.

About Me

Siam Kidd Half English, half Thai, born and raised in Norwich. Joined the RAF as soon as I got my A-Level results. Spent about 7 years in the air force as a pilot before leaving and setting up my own helicopter company in the civilian commercial sector. As well as having this part time business, I'm also a keen equity share and forex trader. Here's a stock tip: if you want to build up your own pension fund, don't rely on the state, invest into Telecom Plus. Look at it's history. Year on year growth combined with the board's passion to be here in 20 years...
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I've read it, I want to shrink my bills, all helicopter pilots want to shrink something....
I wonder if they can do international bill shrinking, as I no longer reside in the Uk.


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According to his mate Jonathan Horswell (who says of himself "Whilst technically I don’t currently hold a Pilot’s licence (yet!), I have spent many thousands of hours flying in Gazelles, Squirrels, Augusta 109's, Jet Rangers and Robinson R22's"), our hero Siam also flew Harriers in the mob:

http://www.jonathanhorswell.com/

Scroll down for Siam's bit.

Loved the pic with granny - why on earth would you put that on a commercial website???? Have a look at the other pics on his site, looks like he was on the C-130J too....

He sure packed a lot into 6 or 7 years (he doesn't seem sure which it is, 6 or 7).

Oh I found this too - this guy is just so talented!


fast forward to 2min 20 secs.
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More great stuff, see here:

Torture Training?

Here's a taster:

"This may or may not interest you, but I've been told to travel around a bit with my 4 Sight. I'm rubbish at public speaking but I'm told it's a good 4Sight. I had a few waterworks in my last 4Sight when I touched on Afghan (to my embarrassment) so I may or may not chat about it....

It's called 'Unconscious at 600mph' and I'll basically be giving an insight into RAF Fast Jet Pilot Combat Escape/Evasion Survival & Torture training, Gravitational Loss of Consciousness, will dispel a few myths and put a business spin on at the end."

I guess that must have been from his harrier time then?
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Old 18th Apr 2012, 15:11
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Siam Kidd Inc!

You can't make this stuff up!

Is this a party name tag he should be wearing?

Enjoys "Snooker" too!
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He does seem very proud to wear his flying suit with his name badge!! I bet at a party you would have no problem working out who was the pilot in the room.

I do wonder why he left the RAF after only seven years - perhaps redunancy?

It does make you wonder why he has not gone in pusuit of commercial flying? Perhaps Forex trading seminars will make him more money. Perhaps he aspires to be like Greg Secker The Flying Trader

THE LIFE OF GREG SECKER

Master trader, entrepreneur, philanthropist and international speaker are just a few of the terms used to describe Greg Secker. A multi-millionaire by his twenties, Greg has gone on to create and run one of England's most successful companies and blazed a path for the everyday-man in the street to walk towards financial freedom. Greg is proud to own Europe's top trader coaching company and is passionate about helping people learn how to be entrepreneurs.
Greg's History

Greg's career began in Thomas Cook Financial services. He then moved over to the foreign exchange business to run a brand new business entitled the Virtual Trading Desk™. VTD was the first online real-time Forex trading platform, allowing customers to receive real-time quotes for huge foreign exchange transactions. His career quickly soared and at the age of 25, Greg was a Vice President at Mellon Financial Corporation, then a major Fortune 500 investment bank in the United States (not bad going for a man in his early twenties.) Here he was lucky enough to be working around some of the very best traders in the world - with exclusive access working with high-powered Forex traders every single day.
Using the very same trading strategies discovered on his travels around international trading floors, Greg's personal trading account grew to the extent where it allowed him to make a choice. Leave or Stay? Already a now wealthy man, Secker decided to retire as vice-president of firm Mellon Financial Corporation at the age of just 27 to set up a trading floor from his home. In just 3 short months from officially retiring, Knowledge to Action was born.
Knowledge to Action

In the past 8 years, more than 90,000 people have attended Knowledge to Action's various trading seminars and workshops, where they learn how to produce a second or replacement income trading the stock and currency markets.
With offices in the London and Sydney and partners in Singapore and America, Knowledge to Action employs 150 people worldwide. The companies' meteoric success has been recently highlighted in the 2009 National Business Awards as a finalist for growth and innovation.
They went on to pick up a prized finalist position in the 2010 London Excellence Awards, and most recently claimed 49th place in the 2010 Sunday Times Fast Track 100 Awards- a Sunday Times initiative co-sponsored by Virgin that recognizes UK's Fastest growing companies.
Greg has always loved speed and as a young boy he was an exceptional sprinter and a daredevil rally car driver, a passion that still remains firmly a part of his boyish character. A sneak peak into his garage complete with Lamborghini's Murcielago SV and an Aston Martin DBS will confirm this.
Greg lives in London with his partner, Katherine and their son Zac.
Most people prefer a nice office to trade, not Greg - he prefers a R44...
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More priceless stuff here:

The Awesome Norwich North Meeting of Wed 11 May!

"Yeah, another great meeting as usual! I think Siam pretty much stole the show in the crazy story stakes this week; "so here I am with my Walther PPK and a fully armed harrier jump jet..." Sounds like the begining of a Bond movie"

Oh, and a little presentation explaining what looks very much like a pyramid selling scheme...

Ex RAF Pilot turned Network Marketer

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Old 18th Apr 2012, 17:31
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FAO Pprune users in this thread,

This thread has recently come to my attention and was quite shocked of what I found. I haven't used pprune in years as in the past I found that opinions are very quickly made from rumours/hearsay etc. And some very decent individuals have had their reputations wrongly tarnished. Now I'm very aware that your opinions of me have already been made and there
will be little difference that this post will make, but I thought it's necessary for me to lay out all the facts. I'll try my best to cover all the points mentioned, so here goes.

1.) There were a couple of mentions about Helicentre Aviation and so this is a point I feel I really must make clear. Fly Siam is NOT a front for Helicentre. Fly Siam is simply and only an aviation broker. Fly Siam is not an operator of any sorts, has no AOC etc. Helicentre is a fine helicopter company with all legal creditations in place like AOCs etc and has been around for a very long time. And because Helicentre is well known for being a good operator, I chose to use Helicentre to fulfil potential helicopter charters or any other form of helicopter flying etc. I'm not affiliated with them in any way, I would just use them to pass on helicopter queries etc. So to clarify, Fly Siam is an independent broker and Helicentre is a fully authorised operator. And I genuinely hope that this thread hasn't caused any bad publicity for them as they don't deserve it.

2.) It seems as though a few of you have googled me etc and found lots of odd connections so let's lay the facts out. In a nut shell, I got my A level results and somehow managed to get in the air force in the pilot branch. I've never been the most academic of types, but I compensate in hard work. Anywho, I was unfortunate and got re roled twice and then eventually found myself in the intelligence community which has happened a lot recently. After a year or so I PVR'd and left the air force as I wasn't happy and really needed to fly. I'm not the best pilot in the world, and not the worst but like all of you here, flying is my passion. I love it and quickly found myself out of the mob with no main income stream and I wasn't flying. So in order to not waste 6/7 years training, I decided to try and convert licences etc and try and become a helo pilot of some sort. Instructor or off shore, I really didn't care. So I got my PPL(H) and started hour building for the cpl as you do and as I got down the line I found out that I could simply set up a broker type company and that by doing this, it would help with becoming VAT registered. And so after speaking to lots
of different pilots, I discovered that everyone had their own 'company of some sort' and one of the things HMRC like to see in order to be approved etc is to see a website or receipts of sales made etc. So I did just that. But due to my enthusiasm or eagerness and commercial type mind, I thought that if I was going to do this, I may as well do it properly, so I got a good website made and started putting the word out there on and offline that I could offer all of these services through brokering etc and earn some form of income which would help with hour building n whatnot. Yes I'm a failed pilot. But at least I've got on with my life and tried to follow my passions. Why does everyone keep rubbing it in my face? People make mistakes and I was young, still am, but I learn from my mistakes and move on. And I'm also of the belief that if you do something, you do it right, so I really wish to do good things with Fly Siam. One of my goals was to one day become an operator in my own right with an AOC/FTO etc. And I'd hire or help out lots of chopped or retiring military pilots as the transition from military to civvy is hard!

3.) I also hope you don't feel like I'm a conman of some sort either due to the different types of websites you've found. Basically, after leaving the air force, I read the book Rich Dad Poor Dad by robert Kiyosaki and that completely transformed my mindset. I realised that in the air force I was simply trading time in exchange for money. And that 95% of the population does that as well. It was really eye opening. And the book shows the benefits of passive/residual/royalty type incomes. So you earn money whether you work or not, just like royalties on a book etc. So I promised myself never to end up in a situation whereby I ever relied on just one income stream. I became an advocate of income diversification and set out to earn at least 5 small income streams.

4.) The websites siamgivesyoufreedom.com and siamshrinksyourbills.co.uk relate to my Telecom Plus part time business. They deliver the UK's cheapest telecoms and energy and for every customer I get, I get roughly £30 one off commission, and I then earn about 3.5% of that customer's monthly utility bill which equates to £5 per
customer per month. So 100 customers = £500 per month. So no, it's not a dodgy scam or pyramid scheme. It's a FTSE 250 company which is the Best Telecommunications PLC 2 years running in the London Stock Market Awards and has dozens of Which Magazine awards.

5.) The website HowNotToLoseYourShirt.com is a very new site which is still undergoing development. It's simply a membership website where one with zero knowledge of the financial markets can learn how to become a competent investor. Yes I have made money on forex and trading in general. But I have also lost lots of money. And that's the main reason for my HowNotToLoseYourShirt.com. I can help people to not make my mistakes and also speed up ones learning. Plus there are a lot of things happening in the financial world at the mo and a non jargon using way of explaining it would help a lot of people.

6.) One of you mentioned that my address of Desborough doesn't inspire confidence. I'm originally from Norwich and have recently moved to the Midlands and that address is simply a logistical move. I figured that if I was going to have any success of doing this aviation broker business, I
may as well relocate with my girlfriend and set up somewhere central and busy. Norwich has a rubbish geographical catchment area and Desborough is great. Half an hour from Northampton and Leicester and half an hour from Helicentre where I was hour building. Plus central to
London/Birmingham/Cheltenham etc. It's also right on the A14 so ideal for when I go back to Norfolk every fortnight! And someone mentioned that it's a very modest area for a forex trader...well the area I live in is very nice thanks and I live in a brand new 3 story house with 4 bedrooms. So for just my girlfriend and I, it's perfect. She gets to have her own dressing room and I get to have a man room/office.

7.) Now in hindsight, looking at all of the stuff this thread has pulled up on me, I was probably over zealous in my marketing. I didn't know what I was doing, it was my first conventional business and so I thought if I used the
ex RAF tag it would help and I just got on with it. I just plastered Fly Siam all over the net, did networking meetings and all sorts and trying my hardest to make things work. I have NEVER set out to do anyone any harm or to try and scam people out of their money and I've never bitched about anyone. Even people that slag me off behind my back. All of my part time income streams are ALL based on helping people. Whether it's helping ones health, saving money on bills, helping people make money etc. Yes I over egged my marketing/advertising etc. And I cringe upon all of it. Very much so! And it's a shame google stores everything! But I'm
always learning and I've played down my air force career for a while now. None of my new friends even know I used to be in the air force. And it's just disappointing to read the comments in this thread because I also believe in Kharma, but I don't think I've ever done anything to deserve this

slating. Just a shame that people love jumping on a bandwagon to put someone down that they don't even know. Well, I haven't got a scooby if this post makes any difference to your views. But if you take away one thing from this, just note that Helicentre has never done anything wrong. It's a fine company and I somehow feel really guilty that they've been dragged into all of this.

Oh well, if you ever meet me in person, please say hello regardless. I'm really not the egotistical Tom Cruise wannabe Walter Mitty I've been painted as!

Anywho, have a good day and happy flying.

P.S. Just read the last post....I have never mentioned I flew with a PPK in a bombed up jet....bloody hell people...
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At least he's a little more open than the likes of Weaver or Zaffar Khan:

The Legalities…
Fly Siam is currently a registered reseller for Helicentre Aviation based at Leicester. Helicentre is JAR-FCL fully approved, FTO/TRTO (UK/FTO-194) and holds a CAA registered Air Operators Certificate. Therefore Fly Siam will be operating within the umbrella of their AOC. (AOC number GB2236).
Just read Siam's latest post - I take my hat off to him for his honesty in his post.

Might be an idea though Siam to look at taking a few of the postings from the past down - it does not generate the impression you might want to portray in business.

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Old 18th Apr 2012, 18:47
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Good post Siam. Good on you for showing up and good luck. Just stop saying "anywho" - it will definitely hinder your career prospects
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Many thanks guys.

I have been trying desperately to remove things from google but there are lots of thing you cannot delete.

Today hasn't been a good day.
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"And I cringe upon all of it. Very much so! And it's a shame google stores everything! But I'm always learning and I've played down my air force career for a while now. None of my new friends even know I used to be in the air force."

Shame we didn't see this post you made on Monday of this week then:

Brand new team in 4N Kettering!

"On a different note, doing my last 4Sight tomorrow at Nottingham...talking about Afghan and torture training is eating me up inside a bit! Will be doing a new one soon...."

We could all have popped along to give you some moral support on the last date of your "Afghan and Torture training" tour last night. Is it available on Youtube? Would love to see it!

Google's a bugger, ain't it?
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Siam, good on you for your honesty and good luck to you, in all sincerity.

However, you have now asked folk not to "rub it in" about your RAF history, which it now appears you are actually slightly embarrassed about. No need to be, others have tried and it hasn't gone exactly to plan and they've moved on.

Unfortunately, the aviation world is full of ex-military pilots who can, and will detect any whiff of 'BS', because, like it or not, they are experts in that environment.

One thing I would strongly advise is never to attempt to display your RAF wings badge in a commercial way (for no other reason that almost all others don't and so doing that makes you stand out "in a certain way", perhaps the total opposite of what you had envisaged).
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This thread has recently come to my attention and was quite shocked of what I found. I haven't used PPRuNe in years
Given that you have not used this forum for years, I wonder what - or who - drew your attention to this thread. Not that that matters much, it was a definate possibility wasn't it?

Well done for your post I think there are a few lessons to learn as a result of this 'interlude'.

ShyTorque:
One thing I would strongly advise is never to attempt to display your RAF wings
badge in a commercial way (for no other reason that almost all others don't and
so doing that makes you stand out "in a certain way", perhaps the total opposite
of what you had envisaged).
To expand on this comment/advice - many of us value the award of a flight brevet. It represents a considerable degree of effort for most. None would 'trash' that treasure - that is none who were of the right stuff. To do so certainly does not send the right message.

I wish you good fortune in your 'non-job' and hopefully not at some others un warranted expense.

Best Wishes
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Pinkfin, I meant the honesty of posting here on the forum.
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