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Old 19th Feb 2009, 12:34   #61 (permalink)
 
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Pilonrock,
Regular mail to Abu Dhabi... good luck with that. You're better off scanning and emailing the documents directly and while you're at it make about 10 copies because as far as the Indian mafia is concerned, it's easier for you to just keep filling them out then it is for them to keep track of the originals. They are on their own schedule so there is no time line. My advice: Get EVERYTHING in writing, keep your job until then and have an exit strategy.
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Old 20th Feb 2009, 03:28   #62 (permalink)
 
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Well that sounds like just the place I want to work

No schedule,No time line or organization?? What was that comment in an earlier thread about the logic free zone. Being an extremely precise person, meticulous and all, I can see such an environment driving me nuts!
Oh well ,lets see what happens, current job safe. Will have an exit strategy!

Thanks for the intel fellas!
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Old 26th Feb 2009, 08:16   #63 (permalink)
 
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$$$

I've heard there was a payrise recently. Anyone know the new rates?

From what i can gather Cat A (senior Capt) is about $600pd, Cat B (normal capt) is $450 pd, and Cat C (co-pilot) is $300 pd. But are these the new or old rates? Anyone know? Does the company offer a 6&6, and overtime 8&4?

Also, can any current guys tell me what the living conditons are like. I've heard there's new houses being build...

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Old 28th Feb 2009, 17:21   #64 (permalink)
 
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Off Shore CAT "A" is 616 USD. You will have to take a number and wait for someone to quit or die to move up. SAR is not entitled to this despite what they may tell you. If your offer letter says "CAT A" look closely and you may find a hook, line and sinker attached.

New housing is nice (w/ Paki engineering)but it is near OMAA so you will want a car/transportation. (Khalifa City is a big construction zone in the middle of nowhere) The labor camp is still opened. Probably won't last long as the Zayad Mosque is nearing completion. I wouldn't live there but it is a piece of aviation history in all its 3rd World glory. More importantly it is closer to civilization.

Off-Shore work seems stable and consistant but I wasn't on that side of ops.
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Old 28th Feb 2009, 18:28   #65 (permalink)
 
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Are they in need of AW139 co pilots at present, does anyone know? I have filled in the online application form but not sure they need people...didn't they recruit not so long ago.

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Old 2nd Mar 2009, 22:25   #66 (permalink)
 
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Just what I heard

Got a friend who's got a friend on the inside at ADA. Says they are full up for now. Hopefully the hire again soon. Fair amount of turn over as I understand it.
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Old 2nd Mar 2009, 22:45   #67 (permalink)
 
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Does that equate to 72,000 USD for a Cat B Captain based upon an 8/4 roster and paid on duty but not when off?

Not very good for the situation I would think!
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Old 3rd Mar 2009, 09:03   #68 (permalink)
 
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SASless,

The numbers i was given was from a current employee, so quiet accurate. And yes, they only pay you for time on base.

So a Cat C Coey (me) on 6&6 would be makin USD$51,000. I got a mate who just went to Bristow Nigeria (and lovin it) and he's on about USD$105,000 for coey 6&6!

No wonder why ADA has such a high turnover.
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Old 3rd Mar 2009, 17:11   #69 (permalink)
 
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8 x 4 Cat A 137000 usd per year, Cat B 110000 and CAt C 67000 real numbers, not the best job but far beyond the worst (nobody shoot at you)
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Old 3rd Mar 2009, 18:34   #70 (permalink)
 
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Just curiosity,
How much experience is A,B,C...?
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Old 6th Mar 2009, 13:49   #71 (permalink)
 
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ADA 'Experience'

C = co-captain; 1000 hrs with frozen ATPL. Expected to 'finish' ATP within 18 months of joining. $300/day

B = regular captain i.e. most who'll not be lucky enough to be in the A crowd. $492/day

A = super dooper captain. ATP obviously & rated on 2 of the types operated & external load. IFR plus night (although I would think B caps would be too). $616/day

A&B both require 3500 hrs (bend-able?). All rates only paid on, no leave pay. Structure of packages remains to be seen i.e. witheld service bonus, gratuities etc.

As you can guess, only a few will be in the A group but its the marketing benefit of being able to say "over six hundred bucks a day at ADA'' Does sound good and as long as the rates keep going up in the region it's good for the industry. It's already made Gulf Helos push their rates up
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Old 6th Mar 2009, 20:47   #72 (permalink)
 
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Thanks.

It's similar to Gulf...

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Old 12th Mar 2009, 07:28   #73 (permalink)
 
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Yup, similar, although 50% more for co-pilots is a big difference.

For 6/6 guys it's $50,000 at ADA vs. $33,000 at Gulf which is a considerable chunk of change for a year flying the same machine, same ops, same hours, same conditions just down the coast. It's making a few guys re-evaluate their 3-5 year plans.

FYI - if you'd like a laugh: AW139 type rating at Gulf (internal training, not Italian factory course) is now 5 years/$50,000 bond.

Aaaah, the logic free zone.....
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Old 12th Mar 2009, 10:30   #74 (permalink)
 
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jetA1pilot, the thing is, I was told ADA doesn't want expat copilots but Gulf yes, or I'm wrong?

Regards
Aser (139 without bonds )
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Old 22nd Mar 2009, 12:24   #75 (permalink)
 
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Try Falcon Aviation Sevices, Abu Dhabi!
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Old 23rd Mar 2009, 17:25   #76 (permalink)
 
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I would think twice
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 03:59   #77 (permalink)
 
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Why? Whatsup there?
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 06:15   #78 (permalink)

 
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Stay as far away from Falcon as possible as long as the Egyptian beancounter is there.

He has taken a good operation and totally Fked it.

Latest is that one of the pilots was even taken off flying the Sheikh duties because he wouldnt give up the right seat. Good on him and good decision. Better to be moved sideways and still be alive than give in and end up in the same place as John Hanley (may he rest in peace).

Feel sorry for those still working there. Some good people and good equipment but with current Egyptian beancounter there they are going backwards at a rate of knots.
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 09:40   #79 (permalink)
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Freestream, you really do have an axe to grind with Falcon.. When are you going to lets us know why??
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Old 24th Mar 2009, 20:10   #80 (permalink)
 
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Freestream Ned-Air2Air

FAS an incident / accident waiting to happen.

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