Are you boys and ladies vaping while flying?
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In previous discussions it's been pointed out that the great majority of airlines prohibit it on their aircraft!
...and there are plenty of crusty Captains who will whip out the e-cig and start puffing and say "you don't mind, do you" mid puff.
My view is it's not worth a blazing argument at the start of a long day over but it does irritate me.
My view is it's not worth a blazing argument at the start of a long day over but it does irritate me.
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...and there are plenty of crusty Captains who will whip out the e-cig and start puffing and say "you don't mind, do you" mid puff.
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...and there are plenty of crusty Captains who will whip out the e-cig and start puffing and say "you don't mind, do you" mid puff.
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Are you suggesting that, as an FO, you'd even consider starting an argument with the old man over something so trivial?
denti,
In the airlines I've flown for (and in RAF multis) you'd enjoy an extended period free of the encumbrance of having to handle the aircraft. What goes around comes around.
enjoy another suddenly freed up space on the seniority list.
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Sometimes a serious man to man chat is enough to resolve it.
Basil you chose your captain style airlines well i see,proof there is a fit for everyone out there
Hongkong based?
Basil you chose your captain style airlines well i see,proof there is a fit for everyone out there
Hongkong based?
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I don't smoke but as long as it's done with moderation, I don't really care too much. One colleague however, likes to smoke approx a pack per leg...
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Sometimes a serious man to man chat is enough to resolve it.
Recollect an FO who used to upset everyone. A line captain told him publicly on a company bulletin board that, if he continued, he wouldn't get a command. The FO left shortly afterwards.
I'd a captain who used to light his last ciggie passing the OM.
Hongkong based?
Basil, I understand your point and it actually doesn't bother me. However, vaping is technically not allowed (though nor is reading the paper on the iPad, but The Times in paper format is fine. Go figure!) just getting it out and starting puffing is not great CRM.
Thankfully unlike my time at sea nobody actually smokes on he flight deck (smoking was verboten then too but everyone ignored it.)
To be honest, half the problem is airlines banning things to show how "robust" their procedures are in introducing entirely unworkable procedures. One Loco bans all non-operational chat from start of push to ToC and ToD to the gate. Hardly a workable procedure - if you ask your colleague how they're feeling at Fl355 you are now in breach of company procedures!
Thankfully unlike my time at sea nobody actually smokes on he flight deck (smoking was verboten then too but everyone ignored it.)
To be honest, half the problem is airlines banning things to show how "robust" their procedures are in introducing entirely unworkable procedures. One Loco bans all non-operational chat from start of push to ToC and ToD to the gate. Hardly a workable procedure - if you ask your colleague how they're feeling at Fl355 you are now in breach of company procedures!
- if you ask your colleague how they're feeling at Fl355 you are now in breach of company procedures!
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In the airlines I've flown for (and in RAF multis) you'd enjoy an extended period free of the encumbrance of having to handle the aircraft. What goes around comes around.
I would actually enjoy being grounded for some time, as i still would get full pay (over 900 guaranteed hours a year), my full vacation on top of that and as many sick days as i want, if i take them during vacation i get my vacation days back too.
As for not handling during normal line operation, that would be another breach of regulation, although in this case only of the companies ops spec, which still is law within the company.
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Where is it against the law? I would like to know. There is no mention in my company procedures, so I told my colleague that he could go ahead, puff away! Now, every time I see a whisp of smoke out the corner of my eye I find myself reaching for the mask and goggles. 
Need to go back on my initial easy going attitude to it.
Need to go back on my initial easy going attitude to it.
