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Old 19th Nov 2002, 22:35   #1 (permalink)
 
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Midlands.
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Costs of owning/operating PA28.

presuming I have the funds to buy a used PA28 on the U.K public transport register what are the ball park figures for its fixed costs?

1] scheduled maintenance/ checks.
2] Insurance.
3] Rough hangarage/parking costs. etc

I appreciate it is a 'how long is a piece of string' question but I would like to know rough figures so I can continue fantasising about starting a flying group.


Cheers, W T V V .
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Old 19th Nov 2002, 23:04   #2 (permalink)
 
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In the Midlands, a rough guide (in reverse order) is:

3) Parking 1000 to 1500 at an airfield with hard runways or perhaps half this if grass.

2) 1500 to 2000 per annum

3) Look at your piece of string ! However, talking to a licensed engineer will give you some sort of idea.


If you look at pfa permit aircraft, then the figures drop significantly for group 3.

I'm treasurer of a long-established group of six people flying a 2-seat pfa taildragger hangared at a grass airfield in the midlands. The figures for our group are:

share price: 2500
monthly standing charge: 37
hourly charge: 6 per hour (take-off to landing) dry.

We buy our own avgas which adds about 18 per hour and leave the aircraft full for the next member to fly.

At a rough guess, a PA28 will cost you more.
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Old 20th Nov 2002, 00:19   #3 (permalink)
 
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cherokee 180

been flying my cherokee 180 about 250 hrs a year for four years now. costs are down to about $20 us hr fuel (@8 gal/hr burn), $1200 us annual (inspection plus extra maint.), $80 us/month for outside tiedown, and maybe $500 us a year for misc. upgrades (this year I replaced the carpet, etc.). make currency adjustments as necessary, but keep in mind that for what it is you can't beat the operating costs...at least in the states.
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Old 20th Nov 2002, 06:21   #4 (permalink)
 
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I'm in a well run (not by me) syndicate of 17 running a 28-161. The aircraft flies about 400 hrs PA.

We're paying 30/month, fixed costs. 5 of that is admin overheards, so that makes fixed costs about 425/month. About half of that will be hangerage.

We're paying 50hr variable costs. It averages a fuel burn of about 32 litres/hr which would be 30/hr in fuel, so about 20/hr in all other costs.

So, it looks to me like:-

2500 fixed costs
+ whatever deal you can get for hangerage.
+ Fuel at around 30/hr
+ other "hour dependent" costs at around 20/hr.

You'd have to talk to our syndicate accountant to get the fine detail, but I think that this pretty much sums it up.

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Old 20th Nov 2002, 11:14   #5 (permalink)
 
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Thank you all very much, that information is very helpful.

regards W T V V
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