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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 09:02
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I wonder which of those 3 pictures is Horatio
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Old 23rd Feb 2015, 09:38
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Numbers of pax are only one part of the equation. What was the yield like? A J41/Metro is cheaper per seat on that leg than the 135. The 135 is a good aircraft but has bombed out in the regional market unlike its bigger sisters. Still driven by two chaps and or chapesses and an F/A....
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I don't care who is who, it is nice for once to see comments of confidence in key people for once, particularly on PPRUNE !!

For me, I have done some more research and this company is defiantly not for me, but that doesn't reflect on the key personal. I am fed up of moving due to chasing hours and the log book, there is always something aint there !!!

Good luck to them.
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Haha, Ned, none of them and Horatio is uglier that all 3 put together.


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(Sorry mate!)

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None of them Ned. Unless he's had plastic surgery and application of aging cream!
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Tipsy, CS... thanks. I think.

I suggest nobody here knows what sort of deal is behind these airframes and what sort of fixed costs the company is running.

How they massage the yield after that is up to them.

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Old 26th Feb 2015, 11:12
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Management should look at CNS-ABM, apparently 14k pax per annum and only an old SAAB just announced for the job. good sector length, load factor and yield. Jet with the speed and reliability edge would nail it
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 07:32
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You'll go a long way to find a better bloke than the current HOFO.
I couldn't agree more slim pickings. He's one of the best around.

As for the other two and most of the other management there, my mother told me if you haven't got anything nice to say, don't say anything at all.

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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 07:33
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So looking on Jetgo's Facebook page there's a picture of the first TW flight.https://m.facebook.com/JetgoAustrali...pe=1&source=46
Nice seeing the CEO (at least he looks like the bloke in the picture on page 1) sitting there looking like a passenger. Wonder how many other Jetgo employees were in the picture to make the flight look busier than it really was?? Perhaps they were going to do some door knocking before the return leg

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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 08:20
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Yep, that's JR in the picture on the right hand side. Remove him from the numbers and I see about 12-15 pax at best and that includes a few kids. Not a great start.
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 08:45
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Well perhaps they should've knocked on a few more doors and for longer than 1 afternoon.
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 10:14
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Gees you lot.

What do you expect, 36 seats filled from the GetGo?

Most of you would have heard of Red Balloon - many of us work for companies that use it as a sales channel - here's an article from the founder which includes an insight into how long it takes for multi-million dollar successfulcompanies to get rolling.

Red Balloon
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 10:55
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Look at the history of this route, the only way to get good numbers on it is to include Armidale. Without Armidale you won't get anymore than 10-12 pax average per flight.

If there was money to be made on this route Q'link would be operating it, rather than ferrying the Dash 8's between Brisbane and Tawworth for maintenance.
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 11:02
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What is wrong with this marketing!!!!????

For goodness sake, hand out to staff free standby tickets to give away to family & friends so you can fill the plane, do a promo and market a proper launch.

Throw a 'lounge party', invite the mayor, get in front of cameras etc. A 1/3 full aircraft is a PR fail! It says, plenty of spare seats, no need to rush to search and book online. Never give customers an opportunity to change their minds.

Keep running promo's every week for 3 months and maybe then you may just reach a tipping point where the bookings become consistent and profit making.

After Roma and Gladstone, this is far from the launch you would have hoped for.

When do the 140's arrive? Surely Honeywell have supplied the necessary gear by now?
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 11:28
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Was the flight to TW empty then?
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Ever heard 3 strikes you're out. Their track record isn't stellar. Do you really think that multi million dollar businesses get 3 cracks at the title? Firstly good management teams wouldn't let it get to 2 strikes without reassessing priorities and deciding if what they're trying to achieve is attainable.
Multi million dollar businesses rarely fail twice before striking it big, and if they do, they have a lot of financial backing and it certainly wouldn't be in the Airline business.
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Old 2nd Mar 2015, 12:36
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I've gotta say, I don't know why so many people get on here to give JetGo a hard time... Relax! There just has to be something better to do than be a negative, angry person on pwune!
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 02:54
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Armchair Experts

And here comes Secundas, the Jetgo expert in marketing and airline operations .. Showing true form as to how little he really F*** knows.

Throw a 'lounge party', invite the mayor,
Funnily enough I'm still recovering from a hangover from a party that Jetgo had on the 19th in Tamworth at the SSS BBQ Barn, and guess what the mayor was the key guest, among others. Secundas, if you really have it this bad for JG, put your CV in

another link from their 'bad marketing

https://au.prime7.yahoo.com/n2/news/...es-down-video/

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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 11:05
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It's s turbo prop at best

All sounds swell, it's not a jet sector, give Cairns/Bamaga a go.
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Old 3rd Mar 2015, 20:55
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All sounds swell, it's not a jet sector, give Cairns/Bamaga a go.
I expect they would have considered it when Simon was trying to bail, considering he shopped it to just about everybody.

However it would mean a new base, with similar fares for twice the distance.

TMW seems like a low risk option using existing crew and aircraft into a market well known by management.

Its good to see they are following Nulli's marketing advice
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