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Old 6th Jun 2014, 17:41   #21 (permalink)
 
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Naples / Javelin

Hey, what about NAC working with them as well? Also, a "red flag"??!? Yeah, right


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Old 6th Jun 2014, 17:55   #22 (permalink)
 
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It's logical for anyone to be skeptical after reading something like this. There was no malicious intent, just a warning.
You seem quite stressed by this whole discussion.
To be fair, even Naples Air Centre has been getting some bad reviews on PPRuNe. It's easy to believe what someone posts on a website. I mean, have you trained with Aerocadet? Or are you just backing them up by what you see on their website?
Check 6 lives in Florida himself and hasn't encountered the school. He was giving an opinion on what school is decent in Florida, and you accuse him of promoting other FTOs... I'm sure theyre big enough to promote themselves.
As a wannabe myself, I wouldn't want to take any risks, so it's easy to be put off by any uncertainties.
By all means, keep posting your opinion, but mine will be unchanged.
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Old 6th Jun 2014, 18:24   #23 (permalink)
 
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HH, I don't have a hidden agenda. A poster above asked me for names of flights schools that I am familiar with, and I did provide that. I am not in the flight training business. I manage and fly business jets. I mentioned Epic and Florida Flyers and FlightSafety Academy because I am familiar with these schools by reputation and I know the former chief CFI at Epic.

Thank you for the explanation of fees. Your original post is not clear, as there are no FAA fees, but that is what you said. This may mislead foreign students.

The "FAA fees" are for check-rides with independent designated pilot examiners (DPE), and for FAA issued medical certificates, obtained though a private physician. I am not trying to split hairs, but to say there are FAA fees to a private DPE causes confusion.

Your earlier post implied that the $46k was paid in advance, though you have explained that is not the case.

As far as agendas, you obviously have a vested interest in snagging students (commission?). That is fine, but I don't. I am only trying to help some future pilots who are asking for help from the U.S. side of the pond.

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Old 6th Jun 2014, 18:32   #24 (permalink)
 
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I am an airline pilot myself, working in the US. I also do aircraft ferry for Global Air Ferry (Global Air Ferry | Firstavia Group LLC | International Aircraft Delivery | Ferry Pilots | Ferry Tanks | Ferry Flight | Find a Ferry Pilot | Aircraft Sales | Safety Pilot | Pilot for Hire | Flight Instructors | International Aviation Consultancy | Avi) and they operate Aerocadet. Since I know the owners and one of them is a close friend of mine with whom I worked for several years in aviation, it pissed me off seeing people bashing legitimate business just because they have a "hunch" or a "gut feeling" with no solid facts.

I thought a proper explanation was due and it was provided.

By the way, as someone who regularly ferries aircraft for Global Air Ferry and is interested to maintain this business untarnished reputation (directly or by association), I would like to ask anyone here to point to bad reviews of Javelin. If such exist, I will bring this to attention of Aerocadet management and ask them to review their partnership with this outfit. Personally, I could not find any at this point.

Otherwise, too-da-loo!..

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Old 6th Jun 2014, 18:38   #25 (permalink)
 
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HH, your concerns certainly are valid, and for potential students 10,000 miles away their searching for a decent flight school has to be frustrating and stressful.

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Old 6th Jun 2014, 18:45   #26 (permalink)
 
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Ah, then I give you my sincerest apologies.
After seeing many friends and people lose money due to flight training scams/bankrupcy (ie CabAir), it's very easy for me to get suspicions over nothing.
After all, flight training is very expensive in Europe, and jobs are scarce.
If everything that Aerocadet listed on their website is true, then it would be a great opportunity for anyone to join them.
In fact, if I ever were to train outside of Europe, then Aerocadet would be one of my top choices.
Again, no malicious posts were directed towards them, but I still remain a bit skeptical over Javelin though...
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Old 19th Jun 2014, 07:15   #27 (permalink)
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Wow... Chill guys... Anyway, this whole thing is legit... I am currently taking my zero to CPL at Aviator College through Aerocadet... So any of you who need clarifications can directly pm me... I'll do my best to help with the enquiries...
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Old 15th Jul 2014, 14:34   #28 (permalink)
 
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hi guys,I'm a malaysian. Although its my post, but i hope it will be helpful for you.Firstly,i dont knw whether this school is real or fraud,but i do found out two problems from other's reply.

1.Let,assume, 10 new students joined the course(zero-full ATPL),upon they received their FI license,they will work as a FI in the flight school in order to gain the flying hrs. So, now the school will possesses 10 new FIs.Thus, those new FIs will start fighting with each other in order to get as many flying hrs as possible and it is possible the school can find enough new student for them to fly with?

2.Due to limitation of F-1 visa, those FIs can only fly 80hrs per month,owing to the problem from above,maybe they can get only 40hrs,maximum 50hrs. 50hrs*10mon=500hrs. So, if i'm not mistaken, it would take more than 2yrs to gain the enough flying hrs,right?(have yet to add the time needed from zero-FI).

Well,maybe its truly a real and great school,i might choose it if i have the chance. Tq for reading my nonsense,no offense.
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Old 15th Feb 2016, 17:18   #29 (permalink)


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Hi did you joined Aerocadet yet ? I am planning to join,I just want to know whats going on there is everything going alright fine smooth or its a scam ?
please do reply and let me know.
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Hmmm. Hudson Hawk

You wouldn't happen to be Robert Weaver's biological father, would you?

You said in an earlier post that you also work for Global Air Ferry.

You also said, [your words] "it pissed me off seeing people bashing legitimate business just because they have a "hunch" or a "gut feeling" with no solid facts."

I also had a gut feeling, which led on to receiving some solid facts. Can you tell us why Global Air Ferry and AeroCadet have no legitimate business addresses on their websites?

What address do the IRS write to out of interest?
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Old 1st Apr 2016, 16:50   #31 (permalink)
 
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Hahaha this is priceless. I always wondered if the ranger (aka Robert weaver) would ever surface again.
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Ah, known as the Ranger out there is he. He's known as the plank this side of the pond.

Here yar

DO NOT use Robert Weaver as a ferry pilot
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Old 2nd Apr 2016, 02:09   #33 (permalink)
 
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Sorry iPhone autocorrect ranger- meant to be wranger/ginger/carrot top/red nut, basically anyone that has the unfortunate genetics of being blessed with red pubes
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Old 2nd Apr 2016, 19:30   #34 (permalink)
 
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I think this thread Which flight school in USA on F-1 Visa ? should be linked to AeroCadet and visa versa.
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Old 19th Aug 2016, 14:16   #35 (permalink)


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Hi,

I sent an email to Aerocadet regarding their FPAP course. I did receive a reply but after reading about RW I'm seriously re considering. My question is that, should I drop the internship with Global Air LLC and take the rest of the course?

Your opinions?
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Old 27th Aug 2016, 18:44   #36 (permalink)
 
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GLOBAL AIR FERRY - Be Warned.



I think 'Ex Dubai' has hit the nail firmly on the head in the thread above today.

A remarkable resemblance to the plank, isn't it?


"Besides, check out Facebook page of "Aerocadet" - over 34,000 members. Pretty hard to keep this large of a following if this was not a legitimate business..."


Many scammers operate with followers exceeding many thousands....but you already knew that, didn't you?
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Old 31st Aug 2016, 01:11   #37 (permalink)
 
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"Consulting" and "airline ready" and "airline placement assistance" translates to "drop a shitload of cash and kiss it goodbye".
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Old 31st Aug 2016, 01:38   #38 (permalink)
 
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All of the above services are offered by contracting third party providers, such as certificate translation and validation services, flight training facilities, aviation companies and regional experts to ensure that our clients are not just licensed pilots, but also "airline employment ready" upon completion of our package flight training and internship programs.
None of which you need as a prospective student.......

And I'm really curious about the legality of "your" paid internship program which allows you to be a gear monkey on ferry flights..presumably on aircraft for which you have not been trained.
And how can you receive remuneration if you're a foreign national and you don't hold a green card?
On a crew visa? Crew of whom? Which company? Based out of which country?
How do you recommend these students explain these hours flown to foreign aviation authorities?
Yes, I flew SIC in an airplane which only requires one pilot...?
Yes, I flew PIC in an airplane for which I have received no training.....?

It's shady and you know it...
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Old 17th Dec 2016, 08:06   #39 (permalink)


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How reputed is Aviator College, Fort Pierce, Florida?

I am an Indian planning to take my commercial pilot licence in the United States.

I saw a full professional pilot ATPL program of Aerocadet Consultancy in Florida. The program seems fine and the tuition is also reasonable.
I would like to know about the credibility and reputation of this institute. Google shows mixed reviews.

Their Flight training school is Aviator College (Near St Lucie Country Int'l Airport, Fort Pierce, Florida)
Reviews of this flight school is really appreciated.

Aerocadet says they offer guaranteed internship with the flight school as a flight instructor and also as a ferry pilot for Global air LLC, So a total of more than 1500 hours.
Has any of you completed this programme or graduated from Aviator? How was your experience?

kindly advice.
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Old 22nd Dec 2016, 19:25   #40 (permalink)


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Here's a link that explains it all about Javelin (although their website is gone and their phone no longer works):
https://www.bbb.org/delaware/busines...and-complaints
One of the officers of Javelin and Javelin Air Services is involved in a federal civil lawsuit for fraud as a defendant:
https://cases.justia.com/federal/dis...66995/67/0.pdf
If anyone has been harmed by them, please let me know.
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