RAF Warrant Officer
Across all 3 Services there are the "I'm more senior to you brigade" or "this is my Mess" city Fathers of old. The bottom line is you can be RSM of this or CASWO of that, but if you bring in £63.4k a year as level 20 PA you don't really care.
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Well, I guess that's put some people in their place.
But if its willy waving you're after, I retired as a WO, now running my own business (which I love), working 3 days a week (max), driving a 15 plate BMW and banking more than that.
Make of life what you want.
Well, I guess that's put some people in their place.
But if its willy waving you're after, I retired as a WO, now running my own business (which I love), working 3 days a week (max), driving a 15 plate BMW and banking more than that.
Make of life what you want.
Without doing any research, I seem to remember that historically the Army had Lieutenant-Generals and Sergeant-Major Generals. The 'Sergeant' got dropped off, but the 'Major' stuck, so a Lieutenant General is a 3-star, but a Major General only two. - Danny
As you are wont to say, YLSNED!
On mature reflection, it's probably best not to reflect on how the ranks of Vice and Rear Admiral originated....
Jack
As you are wont to say, YLSNED!
On mature reflection, it's probably best not to reflect on how the ranks of Vice and Rear Admiral originated....Jack
.....my LE Comission from WO1 says that I was promoted 2Lt 5 years prior to my actual commissioning date, promoted Lt 4 years prior to my actual commissioning date and promoted Captain on my actual commissioning date. - MOSTAFA
As I said to Danny in my last post, YLSNED! What an amazing system, and a great incentive to good behaviour during that period..... If we had something like that in the dark blue - and I behaved!
- I'd probably be a full Admiral now.
Jack
As I said to Danny in my last post, YLSNED! What an amazing system, and a great incentive to good behaviour during that period..... If we had something like that in the dark blue - and I behaved!
- I'd probably be a full Admiral now.Jack
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Tankertashnav,
Just spotted your #63.
No, before my time (there was a time before my time, believe it or not !).
Dad retired as a Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant (King's Liverpool Regt.). Don't know how he fitted in the heirarchy.
Believe I have 73 yrs seniority as a honorary 2nd Lieut. in the US Army Air Corps. Or so the story went. Must be at least a Brigadier by now !
Jack,
You'd make a fine Admiral in my book ! - but remember:
Just spotted your #63.
No, before my time (there was a time before my time, believe it or not !).
Dad retired as a Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant (King's Liverpool Regt.). Don't know how he fitted in the heirarchy.
Believe I have 73 yrs seniority as a honorary 2nd Lieut. in the US Army Air Corps. Or so the story went. Must be at least a Brigadier by now !
Jack,
You'd make a fine Admiral in my book ! - but remember:
"Stay close to your desk and never go to sea
And you can be the ruler of the Queen's Navee"
And you can be the ruler of the Queen's Navee"
Danny.
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Tankertashnav,
Just spotted your #63.
No, before my time (there was a time before my time, believe it or not !).
Dad retired as a Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant (King's Liverpool Regt.). Don't know how he fitted in the heirarchy.
Believe I have 73 yrs seniority as a honorary 2nd Lieut. in the US Army Air Corps. Or so the story went. Must be at least a Brigadier by now !
Jack,
You'd make a fine Admiral in my book ! - but remember:
Just spotted your #63.
No, before my time (there was a time before my time, believe it or not !).
Dad retired as a Regimental Quartermaster Sergeant (King's Liverpool Regt.). Don't know how he fitted in the heirarchy.
Believe I have 73 yrs seniority as a honorary 2nd Lieut. in the US Army Air Corps. Or so the story went. Must be at least a Brigadier by now !
Jack,
You'd make a fine Admiral in my book ! - but remember:
"Stay close to your desk and never go to sea
And you can be the ruler of the Queen's Navee"
And you can be the ruler of the Queen's Navee"
Danny.
Back in the day I often came into contact with Army Warrant Officers including 'The' Conductor. Sometimes there was a bit of 'my appointment trumps yours' etc, mostly in good humour. My usual response was that we all had a similar certificate signed by the Secretary of State and that as far as I was concerned one set of gallopers equals another, no matter how large or elaborate.
As a WO I was once described by a US Army Lt as an officer who worked!
As a WO I was once described by a US Army Lt as an officer who worked!
You'd make a fine Admiral in my book ! - but remember:
"Stay close to your desk and never go to sea
And you can be the ruler of the Queen's Navee" - Danny
Why thank you very kindly, Sir - I really appreciate the thought, even if the Admiralty Board thought otherwise.
Your HMS PINAFORE reference is very pertinent when I recall that I have had one shore appointment where I had an substantial amount of power with very little responsibility, as opposed to the much more usual substantial amount of responsibility with very little power. Perhaps Gilbert was quite right after all!
Jack
"Stay close to your desk and never go to sea
And you can be the ruler of the Queen's Navee" - Danny
Why thank you very kindly, Sir - I really appreciate the thought, even if the Admiralty Board thought otherwise.
Your HMS PINAFORE reference is very pertinent when I recall that I have had one shore appointment where I had an substantial amount of power with very little responsibility, as opposed to the much more usual substantial amount of responsibility with very little power. Perhaps Gilbert was quite right after all!
Jack
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Army Mover,
Thanks for the info (your #88). So Dad was a power in the land, after all. On retirement in around 1920, he joined the Corps of Commissionaires and remained as stiff as a ramrod till his dying day.
A poignant feature: when I enlisted in the RAF, he was as proud as a peacock.
"With your education, son, you'll be a Sergeant in no time !" Sadly he would not live to see the day (when I got the stripes with my wings).
Danny.
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Jack,
So you didn't make Flag Rank after all ! Never mind. Some of us were fated to be bottom-feeders all our Service lives. It's just the way the mop flopped.
Danny.
Thanks for the info (your #88). So Dad was a power in the land, after all. On retirement in around 1920, he joined the Corps of Commissionaires and remained as stiff as a ramrod till his dying day.
A poignant feature: when I enlisted in the RAF, he was as proud as a peacock.
"With your education, son, you'll be a Sergeant in no time !" Sadly he would not live to see the day (when I got the stripes with my wings).
Danny.
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Jack,
So you didn't make Flag Rank after all ! Never mind. Some of us were fated to be bottom-feeders all our Service lives. It's just the way the mop flopped.
Danny.
